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Old 05-30-2012, 09:11 PM   #1
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Default Vinyl Folks - god fucking dammit

Manufacturing defects in brand new records are the worst. The only thing that really annoys me about vinyl. Slight popping doesn't even really annoy me, but skips kill me.

I got a shrinkwapped Tool - Lateralus vinyl, and 3 of the sides play perfectly, but side 2 with schism and parabol/parabola, despite 3 thorough cleanings, still skips in the exact same 3-4 places. Fucking ridiculous.

Any of you dudes have experience with this.

 
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:19 PM   #2
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ugh. isn't that a pretty limited pressing or did they make more.

i've had the experience more than once. i hate when it's warped. like the wage slave left it under the heat too long while shrink wrapping it. annoying.

 
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:28 PM   #3
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it's fairly limited, you can get it for around 40, which is what I got...

it doesn't appear warped, and I can't eyeball anything that's making it skip...just a groove problem I guess.

it's just like...fuck...i'm not gonna return it to the amazon seller...i just feel fucked.

same deal with the sealed adore lp I got a few years ago...skips in to sheila and appels + oranges

 
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:12 PM   #4
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Could it be your cartridge? Or your counterweight?

My Adore LP skips too sometimes, with my Audio Technica table, it skipped on almost every song. But now I have a Project Debut III and it didn't skip as much, only sticked over and over again on Shame.

 
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:14 PM   #5
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Picture discs have slightly lower quality than real vinyl records. My 'Come As You Are' 12" picture disc sounds horrific, but it might need a good cleaning.

 
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:26 PM   #6
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My copy of Adore skipped right out of the package. I also got two records that weren't trimmed right, kinda egg shaped.

 
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:33 PM   #7
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yea sounds like you need to adjust the skating

i thought my copy of machina was "defective" until i got a good turntable - i have only heard of this happening on major pressing albums which leads me to believe if its a "defect" it only exists in the amount of bass frequencies (modern music has tons of bass) making the player rumble and the needle jump.

try a shock absorber.

 
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:34 PM   #8
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Could it be your cartridge? Or your counterweight?

My Adore LP skips too sometimes, with my Audio Technica table, it skipped on almost every song. But now I have a Project Debut III and it didn't skip as much, only sticked over and over again on Shame.
i had a locking groove problem on shame too

 
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:43 AM   #9
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Could it be your cartridge? Or your counterweight?

My Adore LP skips too sometimes, with my Audio Technica table, it skipped on almost every song. But now I have a Project Debut III and it didn't skip as much, only sticked over and over again on Shame.
thats how my adore is too! on Shame. drives me nuts.

 
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:23 PM   #10
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siamese dream reissue has a bit of noise during the beginning of 'mayonaise.' also, a copy of ashrae fax's static crash (underrated dreampop from 2003 or so) clicked a lot throughout side a. manufacturing defects on brand new records are the PITS.

 
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:34 PM   #11
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i think dubplates in berlin presses the best vinyl.

 
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:45 PM   #12
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anyone have the Feels LP (animal collective)? Side 4 is completely fucked and I think that was for the whole pressing, has there ever been an improved version?

 
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:46 PM   #13
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i've been fascinated with discogs.com. they're asking 200 dollars for a Meshuggah - Catch 33 double picturedisc that i also have and played once.

 
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:02 PM   #14
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not as overpriced as say, musicstack/gemm. some deals on discogs. some people seem pretty high over there with the prices they charge.

 
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:35 PM   #15
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i've been fascinated with discogs.com. they're asking 200 dollars for a Meshuggah - Catch 33 double picturedisc that i also have and played once.
i'm not seeing any for sale

 
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:14 PM   #16
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update...same skipping bullshit was happening with my new Depeche Mode record...

My tone arm doesn't have any weight adjustment...so I taped a penny on top of the motherfucker (yes yes not ideal I know) and it plays like a dream

 
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:29 PM   #17
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well still one tiny skip in "schism" but it fixed all the other skips. I'll just attribute that skip to fucking picture disc manufacturing

http://www.recordsale.de/cdpix/t/too...pic-discs).jpg

 
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:30 PM   #18
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fuck. still multiple skips in parabola. oh well, at least it fixed the fucking depeche mode record.

 
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:53 PM   #19
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what kind of turntable do you have?

 
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:49 PM   #20
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update...same skipping bullshit was happening with my new Depeche Mode record...

My tone arm doesn't have any weight adjustment...so I taped a penny on top of the motherfucker (yes yes not ideal I know) and it plays like a dream
Oh, new albums on vinyl are mixed louder, that might be the problem.

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Old 06-30-2012, 07:49 PM   #21
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I already asked this question.

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Old 07-01-2012, 02:48 AM   #22
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Is it bad for the vinyl if it skips on one player but not another? There are myriads of ways that they can be set up improperly, and most of those things aren't good for the vinyl.

 
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:30 AM   #23
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picture discs don't sound very well anyway

 
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:02 PM   #24
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Pic discs are probed to skipping and defects. Inhave probably 100-150 pic discs and I'd say a third of then are fucked

Add to that you have multiple songs on one side (narrower grooves) and the probability of a bad press is pretty easy

 
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:03 PM   #25
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that's a whole lot of picture discs

 
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:04 PM   #26
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i think the only picture disc i've ever owned was

http://ring.cdandlp.com/philippe7613.../114171031.jpg

 
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:33 PM   #27
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Drum and bass went through a big pic disc phase in 2001-2003

A lot of them I had to buy the regular pressing because the pic discs were pressed on a lesser weight for the pic disc. If you want a pic disc to be good had to be on a heavier weight and still only have one song or so per side on a 12". I have a few 10" pic discs and even with 1 song they're still shitty presses

Problem is pic discs are mostly made in top of an existing vinyl and not pressed on the image. Makes for shallower grooves... If it has 3 tunes on a side they're now shallower and narrower

 
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