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Old 03-30-2014, 01:38 AM   #1
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Default zwan is pretty bad ass

i am blazed as fuq and jamming spilled milk

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 01:39 AM   #2
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the fuck dude, i am so glad that 30 second bullshit between posts is gone.

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 01:39 AM   #3
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yeah but spilled milk. good shit dude. it sucks that they reformed and did zeitgeist and all that other stupid bullshit. i wish zwan would've taken the fuck off

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:15 AM   #4
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I'm convinced part of why Zwan was so prolific was because BC had a backlog of songs not suitable or just not used for SP.

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:23 AM   #5
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I don't know why people hated the electric Zwan stuff so much. It's pretty badass. Lyric is just as good as Friends as Lovers.

MSoTS is more Smashing Pumpkins to me than Oceania was.

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 03:21 AM   #6
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For all the bullshit that supposedly went on, Billy ruined Zwan. He wanted it to be commercial and have the level of success SP did, and when record sales were low, he abandoned it like every other idea he's had that hasn't instantly taken off.

Sure, he's said a band member forwarded "a message from a girl to his girlfriend" on his Blackberry -so fucking what? Sounds like Billy was an asshole who deserved it.

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 11:48 AM   #7
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lots of the electric zwan stuff is excellent. just a few duds made it onto the album instead. really hope good quality demos get released, somehow now billy owns the rights. i doubt it will be an official reissue but maybe some other route.

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 12:10 PM   #8
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There are about 20 pretty decent swan songs but few great ones

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 12:12 PM   #9
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As I always say though, Jesus I/MSOTS is easily the best post-SP1 Corgan recording (still is to this day)

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 12:15 PM   #10
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lots of the electric zwan stuff is excellent. just a few duds made it onto the album instead. really hope good quality demos get released, somehow now billy owns the rights. i doubt it will be an official reissue but maybe some other route.
Remember?
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Reiterating remarks made as far back as 2010 on his now-defunct official Facebook page, Corgan said he will receive the rights for his Warner Brothers catalog in 2014, opening up the possibility to release as many as 65 unreleased Zwan songs and the entire Chicago Kid project in 2014, with a re-worked version of Zeitgeist following in 2015. It’s apparently Corgan’s hope to have much of the archive material out by 2015; he says there is “a window of 3-4 years in which most of the key materials need to come out.” Corgan states that respect and mature relationships will be essential within the fan community to get everything out within this timeframe.
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Old 03-30-2014, 12:43 PM   #11
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producers gf fucking someone in the band. A lot of shit happening. Dumb highschool shit.
strawberry fucked pajo

 
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:04 PM   #12
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As I always say though, Jesus I/MSOTS is easily the best post-SP1 Corgan recording (still is to this day)
I completely agree. Just you mentioning it gave me a shiver and I could hear the guitar lead/solo right before the "...and everything just feels like rain" part. Just awesome stuff.

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:16 AM   #13
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yeah, for some reason i thought the rights had passed over to him already. unfortunately, we all know that "respect and mature relationships within the fan community" means squeezing every last cent out of fans. of course, if the demos are good quality i don't mind paying a reasonable fee, so long as it doesn't feel that i'm getting ripped off so that billy can go sign up some rassler or import more specialty teas!

ah, so zwan and zeitgeist are not part of the reissue deal with the label? not sure if this makes them more or less likely to be released eventually tbh. god knows how zeitgeist can be reworked to make it actually a decent album.

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 04:50 PM   #14
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From what people have put together, she also seemed to have something going on with Bjorn.

 
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Old 03-31-2014, 04:55 PM   #15
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Didn't the netphoria community also say she had something going on with Billy too?

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Old 03-31-2014, 05:12 PM   #16
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:14 PM   #17
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I'm convinced part of why Zwan was so prolific was because BC had a backlog of songs not suitable or just not used for SP.
Yes. This.

 
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