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Old 03-13-2021, 10:11 AM   #1
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Old 03-13-2021, 10:18 AM   #2
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Old 03-13-2021, 02:33 PM   #3
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No. I don't see it happening for at least 5 years, if ever.

Pajo and Sweeney recently guested with other artists on a cover of Silver Jews. As far as I know nobody spat their dummy out and accused anyone of being immoral or the worst kind of people. Weird.

 
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Old 03-13-2021, 03:21 PM   #4
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Old 03-13-2021, 03:21 PM   #5
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can't even spell zwan without "naw"

 
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Old 03-13-2021, 05:10 PM   #6
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I personally hated most of Zwan. It seemed insincere and contrived, and a mess of other stuff.

However, that being said,

The Mary Star of the Sea album is probably the one album of Billy’s that needs a complete remixing and remastering overhaul the most.

 
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Old 03-15-2021, 06:58 AM   #7
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I personally hated most of Zwan. It seemed insincere and contrived, and a mess of other stuff.
I don't think any of the Pumpkins, or any major commercial band's stuff is sincere, it's just a degree of competency in selling artificial emotion, that's the business... like Taylor Swift's last two collaboration. Some of it may come from a real place, but lack of sincerity isn't a deal breaker. I'd rather Bill just admit his lyrics are nonsense, like many other popular bands do, than act like he's some genius nobody is smart enough to understand.

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Old 03-15-2021, 02:03 PM   #8
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Maybe after WPC dies someone will buy the rights cheap and reissue it like Tin Machine II.

I would love him to do a massive rerelease and remix but just can’t see it happening. Its like planning a massive Tin Machine II box set around when Bowie did Hours. Who’s gonna buy it.

WPCs buried the whole thing and doesn’t have anything positive to say about the band or music which makes it a hard sell and prevents any sort of spontaneous indie groundswell or positive reappraisal.

 
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Old 03-16-2021, 12:27 AM   #9
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it's not even next on the potentially possible to happen list, the rotten apples reissue is.

 
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Old 03-16-2021, 01:46 AM   #10
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if there had been an option along the lines of "it'll probably happen, and it'll probably be pretty dumb," i'd have voted for that

 
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:05 AM   #11
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it's gonna be 8 versions of baby let's rock and 0 versions of chrysanthemum

 
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Old 03-16-2021, 04:23 AM   #12
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Won't happen unless he does some kind of bespoke Bandcamp/limited edition vinyl type thing, considering the full archives have been teased and not got started for 15 years now and all the bad blood involved I'm not holding my breath

 
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Old 03-16-2021, 06:23 AM   #13
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Old 03-16-2021, 08:30 AM   #14
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Actually I think it will happen and the MCIS album/trilogy thing is a sweetener to get whatever company to carry on releasing WPCs big deluxe sets.

 
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Old 03-16-2021, 10:25 AM   #15
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with "whatever company", do you mean zuzu's?

and where will they store all these unsold box sets?

 
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Old 03-17-2021, 09:07 PM   #16
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I think it’ll happen because there’s enough good shit to release. Won’t be a large press though

 
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Old 03-18-2021, 12:40 AM   #17
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Rat Bastard Quinto baked Zwan tapes and caused the breakup. Sweeny and Pajo then got baked with RBQ.

 
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Old 03-19-2021, 04:34 AM   #18
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At the rate the reissues are currently going if it happened billy would be like 90 years old and still dangling shit in everyone's faces in hopes they'll give him attention like his cats do

 
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Old 03-19-2021, 04:12 PM   #19
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If you remaster shit, it's still shit.

 
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Old 03-19-2021, 04:58 PM   #20
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I'd like to believe, but there's the matter of however many songs he wrote with Pajo and Sweeny.

Might still be bad blood there and I'd be very surprised if they could come to agreements.

If this happens I won't be surprised if it's just whatever BC composed himself.

 
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Old 03-19-2021, 05:04 PM   #21
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If this happens I won't be surprised if it's just whatever BC composed himself.
That's exactly what happened with the album

 
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Old 03-19-2021, 10:35 PM   #22
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sweeny and pajo will take a payout. theyre poooooor

 
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:22 AM   #23
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shouldn't've spent all the per diem on lobster

 
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Old 03-20-2021, 01:41 AM   #24
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I liked Zwan

 
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Old 03-20-2021, 05:56 AM   #25
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when you can have lobster every day, you have lobster every day.

 
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Old 03-20-2021, 12:18 PM   #26
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sweeny and pajo will take a payout. theyre poooooor
sweeney seems to be doing just fine. he seems like a nice dude.

on the other hand, billy does not.

 
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Old 03-21-2021, 08:49 AM   #27
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Sweeney pivoted and collaborated with Malkmus - they had a tour lined up and everything before covid hit. He also got together with Pajo and others to cover Silver Jews. I've listened to a few recent interviews with Sweeney and Pajo on podcasts, and they both seem like a fun down to earth people.

Billy wears flat brims and blocks people all day on instagram live. Looks ridiculous, and mad!

 
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Old 03-21-2021, 01:37 PM   #28
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At least Billy is not a wife beater

 
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:40 AM   #29
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i gave you everything
what'd you give to me

 
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