Sequel to Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness and Machina (33-song album)

[Ram27]

looks like the tonight tonight part

[TheAlter]

They do sound quantized but not in a cool 1979 kind of way. It sounds like Robocop with a drum kit. Maybe it's just the songs sssssuuuucccc....

[eviltimeban]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

They do sound quantized but not in a cool 1979 kind of way. It sounds like Robocop with a drum kit. Maybe it's just the songs sssssuuuucccc....

A lot of the drums on Shiny 1 were just loops.

I would say because perhaps JC wasn't happy with his whole part, wanted to redo them, but Rick Rubin couldn't have been bothered sitting there for that so he said let's just loop the best part.

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by eviltimeban

A lot of the drums on Shiny 1 were just loops.

I would say because perhaps JC wasn't happy with his whole part, wanted to redo them, but Rick Rubin couldn't have been bothered sitting there for that so he said let's just loop the best part.

Most overrated producer ever. i find that fucking hippie millionaire persona, always on the couch without shoes, absolutely unbearable.

[AveryLoren]

I've never personally met Rick Rubin, but I do know bands, engineers and producers that have. While I dislike the fact that he is considered to be a "producer" he does have one thing going for him and that is connections.

It's mind blowing how butchered the SP stuff sounds that is associated with him because the studio they used is world class. So many phenomenally sounding records have been made there.

[incubator]

Originally Posted by AveryLoren

I've never personally met Rick Rubin, but I do know bands, engineers and producers that have. While I dislike the fact that he is considered to be a "producer" he does have one thing going for him and that is connections.

It's mind blowing how butchered the SP stuff sounds that is associated with him because the studio they used is world class. So many phenomenally sounding records have been made there.

He produced some of the greatest records of all time. Like Danzig 1, 2 and 3.

[Joey Goldberg]

there are approx two albums i've heard that Rick Rubin was involved with that i actually like, and i sincerely doubt it had much to do with him

he produced the worst Beastie Boys album and some shitty "comeback attempt" records for Pumpkins and uh, Slipknot or whatever. whoopity doopity!

[Joey Goldberg]

wait a tic... i thought i was in the producer thread!

[TheAlter]

Corey Taylor gave some hilarious account of his experience working with Reuben

Let me give you the fucking truth of it. Rick Rubin showed up for 45 minutes a week. Yeah. Rick Rubin would then, during that 45 minutes, lay on a couch, have a mic brought in next to his face so he wouldn't have to fucking move. I swear to God.

And then he would be, like, 'Play it for me.' The engineer would play it. And he had shades on the whole time. Never mind the fact that there is no sun in the room it's all dark. You just look like an asshole at that point. And he would just stroke his huge beard and try and get as much food out of it as he could. And he would go, 'Play it again.' And then he'd be, like, 'Stop! Do that over.'

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by incubator

He produced some of the greatest records of all time. Like Danzig 1, 2 and 3.

Overfuckingrated. His list is huge but greatest records of all time? He looks like a big name to slap on a record sleeve.

Flood produced The Downward Spiral. Reuben just did a little remix In Further down the spiral.

[jm9843]

Originally Posted by New Art Rioter

Absolutely no way Flood will produce either - would be appropriate if it were a proper sequel and prob the best early news that could come out of this project

This is one of the only things that would make me feel even a tinge of excitement about this project. However, WPC is too CHEAP to bring in Flood.

[AveryLoren]

To be fair Corey Taylor recanted all of those statements and said:

Originally Posted by Corey Taylor

"He works his way and he always has. I was not used to working that way. I was a young guy, freshly sober. Being a singer and being sober, ‘I need your attention, Rick! I need it!’ So that was me being young, unsure of myself, needing the guidance – which I got from Greg Fidelman."

[AveryLoren]

While we're on the topic of Rubin and for the fact that I have no other in to post this but has anyone else seen this clip:



I got to work with Sylvia way back in 2009 and mostly talked about System of a Down and then years later she posts this clip.

[enthusaroo]

this album is gonna be 96% hype and 4% good music. I'm sad to say that.

[T&T]

will this 3rd entry in the trilogy be worse than Godfather part III?

[butthurt]

Originally Posted by Joey Goldberg

there are approx two albums i've heard that Rick Rubin was involved with that i actually like, and i sincerely doubt it had much to do with him

he produced the worst Beastie Boys album and some shitty "comeback attempt" records for Pumpkins and uh, Slipknot or whatever. whoopity doopity!

1980s
1981: The Pricks – The Pricks
1983: Hose – Hose
1984: T La Rock & Jazzy Jay – "It's Yours"
1984: LL Cool J – "I Need a Beat"
1985: Beastie Boys – "Rock Hard"
1985: Run-DMC – King of Rock (mixing)
1985: Jazzy Jay – "Def Jam/Cold Chillin' In The Spot"
1985: Jimmy Spicer – "This Is It / Beat The Clock"
1985: Hollis Crew – "It's The Beat"
1985: LL Cool J – Radio
1986: Run-DMC – Raising Hell
1986: Slayer – Reign in Blood
1986: Beastie Boys – Licensed to Ill
1986: Original Concept – Can You Feel It?
1986: Junkyard Band – "The Word" / "Sardines"
1987: Public Enemy – Yo! Bum Rush the Show (exec.)
1987: The Cult – Electric
1987: Run-DMC – "Christmas in Hollis"
1987: Various – Less Than Zero (soundtrack)
1987: LL Cool J – "Jack The Ripper"
1988: Public Enemy – It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back (exec.)
1988: Slayer – South of Heaven
1988: Danzig – Danzig
1988: Run-DMC – Tougher Than Leather
1988: Original Concept – Straight from the Basement of Kooley High! (exec.)
1989: Masters of Reality – Masters of Reality
1989: LL Cool J – Walking With a Panther
1989: Wolfsbane – Live Fast, Die Fast
1989: Andrew Dice Clay – Dice
1990s
1990: The Black Crowes – Shake Your Money Maker
1990: Andrew Dice Clay – The Day the Laughter Died
1990: Danzig – Danzig II: Lucifuge
1990: Slayer – Seasons in the Abyss
1990: Geto Boys – The Geto Boys (supervisor)
1990: Trouble – Trouble
1990: Wolfsbane – All Hell's Breaking Loose Down at Little Kathy Wilson's Place
1991: Red Hot Chili Peppers – Blood Sugar Sex Magik
1991: Slayer – Decade of Aggression
1991: Andrew Dice Clay – Dice Rules
1991: The Four Horsemen – Nobody Said It Was Easy
1991: Dan Baird – Love Songs for the Hearing Impaired
1992: Sir Mix-a-Lot – Mack Daddy (exec.)
1992: Trouble – Manic Frustration
1992: Danzig – Danzig III: How the Gods Kill (exec.)
1992: The Red Devils – King King
1992: Andrew Dice Clay – 40 Too Long
1992: Red Hot Chili Peppers – What Hits!?
1993: Flipper – American Grafishy (exec.)
1993: Mick Jagger – Wandering Spirit
1993: Raging Slab – Dynamite Monster Boogie Concert (exec.)
1993: The Cult – The Witch (CD, Single)
1993: Danzig – Thrall: Demonsweatlive
1993: Joan Jett and the Blackhearts – Flashback
1993: Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers – Greatest Hits
1993: Messiah – 21st Century Jesus (exec.)
1993: Andrew Dice Clay – The Day the Laughter Died, Part II
1993: Digital Orgasm – Do It (exec.)
1993: Barkmarket – Gimmick (exec.)
1993: Various – Last Action Hero: Music From The Original Motion Picture
1994: Johnny Cash – American Recordings
1994: Sir Mix-a-Lot – Chief Boot Knocka (exec.)
1994: Slayer – Divine Intervention (exec.)
1994: Danzig – Danzig 4
1994: Tom Petty – Wildflowers
1994: Andrew Dice Clay – Dice Live at Madison Square Garden
1994: Deconstruction – Deconstruction (exec.)
1994: Milk – Never Dated (exec.)
1994: Lords of Acid – Voodoo-U (exec.)
1994: Red Hot Chili Peppers – Live Rare Remix Box
1994: Red Hot Chili Peppers – The Plasma Shaft
1995: God Lives Underwater – God Lives Underwater (exec.)
1995: Nine Inch Nails – Further Down the Spiral
1995: Red Hot Chili Peppers – One Hot Minute
1995: AC/DC – Ballbreaker
1995: God Lives Underwater – Empty (exec.)
1995: Jazz Lee Alston – Jazz Lee Alston (exec.)
1996: Slayer – Undisputed Attitude (exec.)
1996: Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers – She's the One
1996: Sir Mix-a-Lot – Return of the Bumpasaurus (exec.)
1996: Donovan – Sutras
1996: LL Cool J – All World: Greatest Hits
1996: Johnny Cash – Unchained
1996: Barkmarket – L. Ron (exec.)
1996: Raging Slab – Sing Monkey Sing (exec.)
1996: Kwest tha Madd Ladd – This Is My First Album (exec.)
1997: System of a Down - Demo Tape 3
1997: Various – Private Parts: The Album
1998: Slayer – Diabolus in Musica
1998: Johnny Cash & Willie Nelson – VH1 Storytellers
1998: System of a Down – System of a Down
1998: Lucinda Williams – Car Wheels on a Gravel Road (mixing)
1998: Various – Chef Aid: The South Park Album
1998: Sheryl Crow – The Globe Sessions
1999: Kula Shaker – Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts
1999: Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers – Echo
1999: Red Hot Chili Peppers – Californication
1999: Various – Loud Rocks
1999: Melanie C – Northern Star
1999: Mr. Hankey Poo – Mr. Hankey The Christmas Poo
1999: Various – Mr. Hankey's Christmas Classics (exec.)
2000s
2000: Johnny Cash – American III: Solitary Man
2000: Rage Against the Machine – Renegades
2000: Eagle-Eye Cherry – Living in the Present Future
2000: Paloalto – Paloalto
2001: Saul Williams – Amethyst Rock Star
2001: American Head Charge – The War of Art
2001: System of a Down – Toxicity
2001: Slayer – God Hates Us All (exec.)
2001: Macy Gray – The Id (exec.)
2001: Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan – The Final Studio Recordings
2001: Krishna Das – Breath of the Heart
2002: Aerosmith – O, Yeah! Ultimate Aerosmith Hits
2002: Red Hot Chili Peppers – By the Way
2002: Johnny Cash – American IV: The Man Comes Around
2002: Audioslave – Audioslave
2002: System of a Down – Steal This Album!
2002: Rahat Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan – Rahat
2003: The Jayhawks – Rainy Day Music (exec.)
2003: The Mars Volta – De-Loused in the Comatorium
2003: Limp Bizkit – Results May Vary
2003: To My Surprise – To My Surprise (exec.)
2003: Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros – Streetcore
2003: Jay-Z – "99 Problems"
2003: Red Hot Chili Peppers – Greatest Hits
2003: Rage Against the Machine – Live at the Grand Olympic Auditorium
2003: Johnny Cash – Unearthed
2003: Paloalto – Heroes and Villains
2003: Krishna Das – Door of Faith
2003: Manmade God – Manmade God (exec.)
2004: Johnny Cash – My Mother's Hymn Book
2004: Slipknot – Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses)
2004: The (International) Noise Conspiracy – Armed Love
2004: Lil Jon & the East Side Boyz – Crunk Juice
2004: T.H. White – More Than Before (keys)
2005: Weezer – Make Believe
2005: System of a Down – Mezmerize
2005: Audioslave – Out of Exile
2005: Shakira – Fijación Oral Vol. 1 (exec.)
2005: Limp Bizkit – Greatest Hitz
2005: Neil Diamond – 12 Songs
2005: Johnny Cash -The Legend of Johnny Cash
2005: System of a Down – Hypnotize
2005: Shakira – Oral Fixation Vol. 2 (exec.)
2006: Red Hot Chili Peppers – Stadium Arcadium
2006: Dixie Chicks – Taking the Long Way
2006: Johnny Cash – American V: A Hundred Highways
2006: Slayer – Christ Illusion (exec.)
2006: Justin Timberlake – FutureSex/LoveSounds
2006: U2 – U218 Singles
2006: Johnny Cash The Legend of Johnny Cash Vol. II
2007: Linkin Park – Minutes to Midnight
2007: Poison – Poison'd!
2007: Luna Halo – Luna Halo (exec.)
2007: Gossip – Live in Liverpool (exec.)
2007: Dan Wilson – Free Life (exec.)
2007: Kanye West, Nas, KRS-One, Rakim – "Classic (Better Than I've Ever Been)"
2007: Vanessa Carlton - "Heroes & Thieves"
2007: Coheed and Cambria - "Good Apollo, I'm Burning Star IV, Volume Two: No World for Tomorrow"
2008: Ours – Dancing for the Death of an Imaginary Enemy
2008: Neil Diamond – Home Before Dark
2008: Weezer – Weezer (Red Album)
2008: Jakob Dylan – Seeing Things
2008: Metallica – Death Magnetic
2008: The (International) Noise Conspiracy – The Cross of My Calling
2009: Gossip – Music for Men
2009: Pete Yorn – Back & Fourth (exec.)
2009: The Avett Brothers – I and Love and You
2009: Brandi Carlile – Give Up the Ghost
2009: Slayer – World Painted Blood (exec.)
2009: Type O Negative – Bloody Kisses "Top Shelf" edition (2009 re-release) "Summer Breeze" (Rick Rubin Mix)
2010s
2010: Johnny Cash – American VI: Ain't No Grave
2010: Gogol Bordello – Trans-Continental Hustle
2010: Linkin Park – A Thousand Suns
2010: Josh Groban – Illuminations
2010: Kid Rock – Born Free
2011: Adele – 21
2011: Red Hot Chili Peppers – I'm with You [1]
2011: Metallica – Beyond Magnetic
2011: Linkin Park – A Thousand Suns+
2012: Linkin Park – Living Things[2]
2012: Howlin' Rain – The Russian Wilds (exec.)
2012: ZZ Top – La Futura
2012: The Avett Brothers – The Carpenter
2012: Lana Del Rey – Paradise
2012: Red Hot Chili Peppers – Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Covers EP
2013: Linkin Park – Living Things +
2013: Black Sabbath – 13
2013: Kanye West – Yeezus (exec.)[3]
2013: Eminem – The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (exec.)[4]
2013: Jake Bugg – Shangri La
2013: Linkin Park – Recharged
2013: Lady Gaga – Artpop
2013: The Avett Brothers – Magpie and the Dandelion
2013: Red Hot Chili Peppers – I'm Beside You
2014: Jennifer Nettles – That Girl
2014: Ed Sheeran – X[5]
2014: Angus & Julia Stone – Angus & Julia Stone
2014: Damien Rice – My Favourite Faded Fantasy
2014: Linkin Park & Alec Puro - Mall
2014: Wu-Tang Clan – A Better Tomorrow
2014: Yusuf – Tell 'Em I'm Gone
2015: GoldLink – And After That, We Didn't Talk
2016: Kanye West – The Life of Pablo
2016: Various – Star Wars Headspace
2016: James Blake - The Colour in Anything
2016: The Avett Brothers – True Sadness
2017: Billy Corgan – Ogilala
2017: Jovanotti – Oh, vita!
2017: Eminem – Revival[6]
2018: Ruen Brothers – 'All My Shades Of Blue'
2018: The Smashing Pumpkins – Shiny and Oh So Bright, Vol. 1 / LP: No Past. No Future. No Sun.
2019: Santana – Africa Speaks
2019: Jovanotti – Jova Beach Party
2019: Jovanotti – Lorenzo sulla Luna
2019: Kae Tempest – The Book of Traps and Lessons
2019: The Avett Brothers – Closer Than Together
2020s
2020: The Strokes – The New Abnormal
2021: Imagine Dragons - Cutthroat

[Joey Goldberg]

ah shit, you're absolutely right

how could i forget about Results May Vary!

[Ram27]

those middle RHCP records, the alt rock ones with minimal wanky shitty funk garbage, were good

tho i imagine that was mostly frusciante's playing

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by AveryLoren

To be fair Corey Taylor recanted all of those statements and said:

Clown probably slapped him in the face because it's bad for business and he tried to backpedal but didn't really retracted, imo. He also added, “All of Rick’s engineers are essentially his surrogates. You know that when you’re working with him.” Which sounds essentially the definitive truth about Reuben.

[Forgotten Child]

upload photo share

[dustrocck]

Is that posted by Billy? Is he speaking in character now?

[Forgotten Child]

Howard

[TheAlter]

Whi pays the bills for these recordings? I doubt Sumerian had anything to do with it.

If it's Billy then it would explain the choice of not too famous producers and engineers.

[AveryLoren]

Weird, I could of swore Howard talked about having a daughter before.

[smashingjj]

Abusing compressors, as expected

[enthusaroo]

Mr. Hankey Poo – Mr. Hankey The Christmas Poo > Shiny and Bright, Cyr lol

[Joey Goldberg]

South Park 64 > Smashing Pumpkins 2/3/4

[VoxUpDoc]

abusing compressors, abusing listeners

[slunken]

Originally Posted by smashingjj

Abusing compressors, as expected

lol like it's some massively cool thing to post about jesus christ kill them all

[slunken]

i like when billy uses social media because we can see in real time all the wrong decisions he makes