Sequel to Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness and Machina (33-song album)

[eviltimeban]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

Yeah but dude is Billy-fucking-Corgan. Just a spare acoustic on the sofa? Most pros have tons of guitars lying around on top of those at the rehearsal space. It's the sign they are just tools of the trade imo.

Well, and I know this from experience, when you have kids you tend to put your expensive guitars away!

Besides, he's not gonna be cranking up the big muff while Auggie is having a nap.

[Crepe]

At this point, he'd have the most success just digging into old demos from the 90s-00s and recording them without the vocals upfront.

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by eviltimeban

Well, and I know this from experience, when you have kids you tend to put your expensive guitars away!

Besides, he's not gonna be cranking up the big muff while Auggie is having a nap.

Maybe that's why he's bought thr adjcent house to his 18-room, 9,606-square-foot Normandy chateau-style mansion on more than 6 acres in Highland Park.

To store his axes lol

[Forgotten Child]

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[AveryLoren]

What does this dude have on Billy? His production is terrible and they still record every single release with him.

[AveryLoren]

The shirt/guitar display is actually gone.

[cork_soaker]

boo. thanks for checking, anyway.

[T&T]

what's with the kick drum in front of the kick drum? I'm not familiar with this technique.

[AveryLoren]

Originally Posted by T&T

what's with the kick drum in front of the kick drum? I'm not familiar with this technique.

It acts as a capturing device for sub frequencies (usually around 50Hz) which you'll never hear unless they release master audio versions.

[Ram27]

oh. useful

[Ram27]

why the fuck can't they record in the same studio? this is obviously gonna be the same sort of CYR horseshit where there's zero collaboration

[AveryLoren]

Originally Posted by Ram27

why the fuck can't they record in the same studio? this is obviously gonna be the same sort of CYR horseshit where there's zero collaboration

That's Studio A at Blackbird Studios where Billy has recorded extensively since 2017 (30 days stuff). I doubt Jimmy would be at Corgan's favoright studio (a guess) without him.

[brothahi4L]

As I said: ..it will repeat itself. Synths, stupid lyrics, voice up front, dry and static production.... stop hoping guys, then the disappointment after hearing cyr 2 isnt that big....

I guess we get songs like fol, superchrist or glow,maybe some ballads like wildflower.... so fasten your seatbelts.






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[eviltimeban]

Originally Posted by AveryLoren

What does this dude have on Billy? His production is terrible and they still record every single release with him.

I wondered the same. But perhaps he's only engineering, which seems to be the case.

I'm just pleased to see a proper JC kit - we haven't heard it properly on a SP release since James came back - Rubin ruined whatever sound it had, so hopefully this time around it sounds like him.

[New Art Rioter]

Correct me if I'm wrong - but I think the last time we heard Jimmy properly on a SP record was Zeitgeist / Superchrist....

[Run To Me]

Originally Posted by Ram27

it's really insane cause surely having a wife and kid gives him normal people experiences to write about

tangents vex the whorl

There’s some domestic partnership/kids feelings on Cyr if u look closely

e.g., Birch Grove, Telegenix

It’s one of the more promising aspects of the album, imo. Shows he’s still got some feelings left in there that can make it out into the music

[dustrocck]

Originally Posted by New Art Rioter

Correct me if I'm wrong - but I think the last time we heard Jimmy properly on a SP record was Zeitgeist / Superchrist....

Yeah, if you ignore the tossed-off Rick Rubin "let's just record all of your amazing ideas for a touring single, Billy" Shiny Happy Fountainhead

[eviltimeban]

Originally Posted by New Art Rioter

Correct me if I'm wrong - but I think the last time we heard Jimmy properly on a SP record was Zeitgeist / Superchrist....

Whichever came after, FOL / Glow.

[Forgotten Child]

Originally Posted by eviltimeban

Whichever came after, FOL / Glow.

You mean, just after he left?

[Ram27]

i’m not sure if i care about hearing a nice drum sound if the song surrounding it is trash

[Ram27]

starting pitcher had a great day, 8ip, 0er, 3h, 1w

but the offense can’t hit and we lost. ya know

[AveryLoren]

As a total gear head and audio snob it is wildly odd how they'll have monstrous set ups in amazing studios and still make everything sound like complete ass.

I listened to Shiny Vol 1 today for the first time since it was released and I hit next at about 20 seconds in on all tracks. How the hell are they able to make complete songs with the production of an entry level engineer?

Knights of Malta is Widow Wake my Mind pt II

[AveryLoren]

Also, I adore Jimmy, he is an absolute beast and is the why I wanted to own drums. That said, they need to stop quantizing his performances. Everything on Shiny Vol 1 is heavily quantized. One of the greatest elements to the BC/JC combo was that they both had a built in drag/swing. It's all too sterile and a remnant of working with Byrne. Listen to JCC live and you'll hear Jimmy's true swing.

[Run To Me]

Originally Posted by AveryLoren

Also, I adore Jimmy, he is an absolute beast and is the why I wanted to own drums. That said, they need to stop quantizing his performances. Everything on Shiny Vol 1 is heavily quantized. One of the greatest elements to the BC/JC combo was that they both had a built in drag/swing. It's all too sterile and a remnant of working with Byrne. Listen to JCC live and you'll hear Jimmy's true swing.

You think they fucken quantized Jim Chimberlins drum parts?! Thought they were just using a click

Cause that would be true blasphemy wouldn’t it? You only quantize when your drummer basically, when it boils down to it, sucks ass and u don’t want to kill your wrists doing 1000 takes just to get the drum part, at least in my very limited recording experience

[AveryLoren]

Originally Posted by Run To Me

You think they fucken quantized Jim Chimberlins drum parts?! Thought they were just using a click

Cause that would be true blasphemy wouldn’t it? You only quantize when your drummer basically, when it boils down to it, sucks ass and u don’t want to kill your wrists doing 1000 takes just to get the drum part, at least in my very limited recording experience

They're just far too in sync, but it could be click. Live he's not as "one millionth percent" on time like the studio takes, but yeah he might just be that good in the studio. I hear that quantization sound, though. Having used it thousands of times I just hear that on Shiny 1.

[eviltimeban]

Originally Posted by Forgotten Child

You mean, just after he left?

??

Jimmy played on both those tracks.

[Forgotten Child]