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12-11-2017, 05:04 PM | #1 |
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Corgan takes a look at the new Big Muff
Sounds amazing. I'm glad he hasn't sold that star covered guitar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osbnob9ih-c |
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12-11-2017, 06:09 PM | #2 |
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i felt like he should have played 15 seconds of a SD song instead of just dicking around the whole time.
but yeah it does sound good. |
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12-11-2017, 06:33 PM | #3 |
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12-11-2017, 06:34 PM | #4 |
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who wants money ♬ ♫ ♪
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12-11-2017, 06:48 PM | #5 |
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Awesome video!
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12-11-2017, 07:17 PM | #6 |
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Yeah it's annoying how he keeps half-teasing riffs
Still hasn't sold that SD strat either |
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12-11-2017, 07:46 PM | #7 |
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If there was ever a thread title that screamed for a photoshop this is it.
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12-11-2017, 07:58 PM | #8 |
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Sweet moses. Give me one now.
I think part of the secret is to also use lace sensors. ALSO LEARN TO EMBED |
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12-11-2017, 08:21 PM | #9 |
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I love how every studio story he tells is like "so and so said it wouldn't work but yea i showed 'em"
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12-11-2017, 08:54 PM | #10 |
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At least he gave Catherine credit.
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12-11-2017, 10:31 PM | #11 |
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Wheel?
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12-11-2017, 10:46 PM | #12 |
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cool video. I bought a Big Muff in the mid 2000s to emulate Corgan and it sounds like shit. awful pedal, literally no presence, completely disappears when another guitar with different distortion (or any other instrument with an amplifier) is present. impossible to record. I figure Corgan found success with this because his rig costs $20k or whatever
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12-16-2017, 12:17 AM | #13 | |
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This is the first I've heard of that particular aspect of the technique. |
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12-12-2017, 12:27 AM | #14 |
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Wata uses a Big Muff. That is all I need to know.
I fully support the pedal! I worship the Drone Goddess! |
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12-12-2017, 01:26 AM | #15 |
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NOW I believe Billy has turned a corner in his life. I never thought I'd see him touch a Big Muff again let alone happily appear in a video for EHX.
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12-12-2017, 01:52 AM | #16 |
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12-12-2017, 04:35 AM | #17 |
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KEEP RUNNING YOUR MOUTH OFF AND HE WILL PUNCH YOUR LIGHTS OUT
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12-12-2017, 09:19 AM | #18 |
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cool that he's not fat anymore
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12-15-2017, 06:33 AM | #19 |
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12-15-2017, 12:25 PM | #20 |
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12-18-2017, 03:50 AM | #21 | ||
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http://pedals.thedelimagazine.com//w...etta-00031.jpg Quote:
I put together a clone kit of the op-amp Muff, from BYOC: https://buildyourownclone.com/produc...er-opamp-kit-1 I also custom added a mid-scoop toggle switch, which some of the originals had. It sounds very classic SP - more easily instantly so through a Les Paul with 490R / 498T pickups than through a strat. A lot of that thick-bodied sizzle and growl on the album is coming from the Les Paul humbuckers. And if wanting Billy's SD strat sound, then the Lace Sensors have to be set up the correct way. I might make a thread about that. The Univox Superfuzz was also used a lot on SD, according to a couple people who worked on the album. One reference for that is here: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/show...1&postcount=31 And there are a couple other places where it was mentioned, though I don't immediately recall where. The MXR Distortion II was used together with an op-amp Muff for solos, according to Billy's "stompland" pedal video. Last edited by he/she/it : 12-18-2017 at 05:19 AM. |
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12-18-2017, 03:26 PM | #22 | |
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What's the deal with the lace sensor setup too? The red bridge pickup has a similar output to a humbucker from what I've read, so it wouldn't be surprising if normal single coils can't do the SD thing. I've tried it and it sounds like ass. |
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01-06-2018, 11:05 PM | #23 | |
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BDgx27Gh87I/ Also, Jeff's pedal board: https://www.instagram.com/p/BDgx_iwh87f/ The post is from March 2016, so, during the In Plainsong tour. Found 'em here: https://www.thegearpage.net/board/in...#post-21673654 Last edited by he/she/it : 01-06-2018 at 11:31 PM. |
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12-19-2017, 06:28 PM | #24 | |
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I appreciate reading these kinds of posts even though I don't know 90% of what's going on. I feel like I'll eventually learn something! |
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12-20-2017, 08:59 PM | #25 |
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I took a look at your moms big muff last night
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12-22-2017, 12:42 AM | #26 |
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allow me to demo this pedal for u
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12-22-2017, 07:40 AM | #27 | ||
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I just did a bit of a search for it, but couldn't find it. Also, minimum 500k pots on the volume and tone controls. I think 1 Meg pots should be used for the volume control. Single-coil strats normally have 250k pots in them, and that makes the Lace Sensors way too dark-sounding, and not very pleasant or usable, IMO. Quote:
Sweet. It sounds really interesting. I might get one, even though I already have 2 clones of the op-amp Muff. The EHX reissues usually sound a bit... less when compared directly to the originals. For example, the Small Stone, and the Russian Big Muff, both have small deficiencies in their sound when compared to the originals of those pedals. The Small Stone Nano just has slightly less deep, less colourful tone, and the Russian Big Muff Nano doesn't have as much wavyness in the distortion as the original does, which I think is one of its best qualities. I'll be interested to see if someone makes a true original vs reissue comparison of the op-amp Muff. Cool. I like the technical details, as well. |
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12-12-2017, 09:34 AM | #28 |
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Look at the YouTube comments...this video is a hit.
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12-12-2017, 11:48 AM | #29 |
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Thin Billy playing riffs on his Siamese Dream Strat with a Bg Muff while talking nostalgically about James Iha and Catherine. I do believe pigs started flying.
The ring is probably the only thing that would remind me this video came out in 2017. |
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12-12-2017, 12:18 PM | #30 |
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