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04-09-2020, 09:45 AM | #211 |
Minion of Satan
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04-09-2020, 09:46 AM | #212 |
Minion of Satan
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and that's why i hate your fucking guts
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04-09-2020, 09:49 AM | #213 |
real estate cowboy
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oh, young love
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04-09-2020, 09:51 AM | #214 | |
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crazy! |
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04-09-2020, 09:52 AM | #215 |
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04-09-2020, 09:53 AM | #216 |
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04-09-2020, 09:54 AM | #217 |
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l'il historian over here lol
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04-09-2020, 09:54 AM | #218 |
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back in my day
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04-09-2020, 11:30 AM | #219 | |
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04-09-2020, 11:32 AM | #220 |
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It’s funny for RBG to attack another poster as a “hopeless moderate” when he’s been screaming at all of us Bernie supporters to vote Biden or else.
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04-09-2020, 11:38 AM | #221 |
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04-09-2020, 11:48 AM | #222 |
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04-09-2020, 12:26 PM | #223 |
Minion of Satan
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yes that was quite generic, i admit.
for a long time i have been witnessing a pattern with this guy in particular, where he oftentimes self-fuels his own anger. |
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04-09-2020, 12:29 PM | #224 | |
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again, the Dems were shocked they lost in 2004 but the indicators were all there. In 2012, Republicans could not believe incredibly unpopular and evil and destructive president obama won re-election when romney looked so strong to them. But the indicators were in the numbers. It's not polls that mislead people like this, it's the echo chamber and psychological biases. |
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04-09-2020, 12:37 PM | #225 | ||
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They also point out in this analysis that the number of Sanders voters who say they will vote for Trump or stay home is actually on par with the number of voters who do that in any election when their candidate doesn't win. Sanders doesn't have an especially rebellious base in that sense. Their likelihood to stay home or protest vote is about normal. |
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04-09-2020, 12:50 PM | #226 |
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I'm not a moderate in any sense. I just want to win. I understand that it's either going to be Biden or Trump, and that's going to define the federal judiciary and the Supreme Court for the next several decades. you can play out this fantasy of getting a real socialist in 4 more years but there's no actual reason to believe that will happen just because trump wins again. it's just a hunch on your part. what will happen, for certain, is that the GOP takeover will continue and the courts will not stop it. your imaginary 4 years in the future socialist will have great luck against a far right judiciary and SCOTUS, I'm sure, as Republicans give themselves permission to further fix the game in their favor through state election gerrymandering and voter restrictions. You want an inspiring candidate, I don't care. I want policy achievements because that's what matters.
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04-09-2020, 12:51 PM | #227 |
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I'm not conflating you with anyone. I am specifically pointing out "a pattern with this guy in particular"
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04-09-2020, 12:52 PM | #228 |
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i'm not saying you are conflating me with anyone, you are making baseless assumptions about me, with this near 100% blindness.
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04-09-2020, 12:55 PM | #229 |
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ok
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04-09-2020, 12:57 PM | #230 |
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I'm legally blind.
Still drive a car, though. |
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04-09-2020, 12:59 PM | #231 |
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This guy. Always with the jokes!
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04-09-2020, 01:00 PM | #232 |
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I shouldn't get so worked up by the Bernie hardliners for sure. The truth is when the election comes around the majority of Bernie primary voters are going to vote for Biden. Biden's biggest danger at this point seems to be how Clinton lost– and the biggest factor in that was moderates and independents in suburban districts in PA, WI, and MI who stayed home because they hated both Clinton and Trump. This is evidenced by the 2018 election, where we saw turnout surge for the Dems, but specifically in a lot of those places Clinton lost. The Dems flipped seats in some areas that went for Trump, and some of those areas are places Romney lost in 2012. That shows the votes are there, but people didn't come out because they wouldn't vote for Clinton.
A substantial number of people in Michigan who voted Sanders because they disliked Clinton went ahead and voted for Biden over Sanders in 2020. I think that is reason to believe Clinton's unpopularity inflated Sanders' numbers in 2016 but at least a good number of those voters are still more comfortable with a moderate, and it was particularly Clinton who they would not vote for. |
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04-09-2020, 01:14 PM | #233 |
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The Atlantic – What Does Nate Silver Know? The famous data journalist thinks the media are making the same mistakes this year as they did in 2016.
this is a really insightful look into the accuracy of 2016 polls and forecasts, why Silver was right by the end of the election when other journalists were so wrong, and how the public has reacted in a way that shows most people don't really grasp how statistical journalism works |
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04-09-2020, 01:21 PM | #234 |
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04-09-2020, 02:37 PM | #235 |
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Breeg, you are absolutely burying your head in the sand about Bernie voters apparently “overwhelmingly supporting Biden”. Stop it. Pay attention. Read what we are saying online. WE. ARE. NOT. VOTING. FOR. BIDEN.
Why do you think the #demexit is a thing??? |
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04-09-2020, 03:11 PM | #236 |
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Most likely true. Does not matter. More a symptom of a sick, mad world
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04-09-2020, 03:20 PM | #237 |
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Most likely true. Does not matter. More a symptom of a sick, mad world
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04-09-2020, 03:21 PM | #238 |
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whoops
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04-10-2020, 02:03 PM | #239 |
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Been hearing a lot of rumbling about people wanting Andrew Cuomo to take over for Biden. But he’s so electable right? Why would anyone need to take over for him? Jesus Christ the idea of settling for Joe Biden is INSULTING.
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04-10-2020, 02:49 PM | #240 | |
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In fact i’d go so far as to say many of us are more united in our acute anger at biden for being so horrible, yet taking the nomination, than we are united by our ever-present ambient anger at trump for being president. Resigned to 4 more years of trump and yes “fuck biden” is the overwhelming sentiment im hearing With my folky folkster ear hole story of an old wife tale or saga i must admit |
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