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Old 05-15-2018, 05:12 AM   #1891
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Wow. I mean, it's just basic common sense to actually "reunite" when you plan a reunion, regardless of whether or not she's fit enough to participate in the whole tour.

I've got to re-read those alternative nation interviews again. I don't suppose there is full, uncut audio version anywhere?
Just so you have both sides of the story, the band said Darcy "has repeatedly been invited out to play with the group, participate in demo sessions, or at the very least, meet face-to-face, and in each and every instance she always deferred."

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 06:09 AM   #1892
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Shiny And Oh We Didn't Bother to Actually Reunite

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 06:25 AM   #1893
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will they bother to rehearse?

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:11 AM   #1894
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Nah. The hits are easy to play.

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:06 AM   #1895
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James has been secretly practising the hits in his bedroom in front of a mirror for the last 15 years just waiting for this moment.

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:23 AM   #1896
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Wow. I mean, it's just basic common sense to actually "reunite" when you plan a reunion, regardless of whether or not she's fit enough to participate in the whole tour.

I've got to re-read those alternative nation interviews again. I don't suppose there is full, uncut audio version anywhere?
Brett talked to D'arcy four hours and rearranged the parts he published.

As I said, it is well documented by the "infamous" text messages that D'arcy hadn't been invited to the studio last January.
The group statement was an answer by the management on an inquiry of several magazines after D'arcy released those messages. Without specific explanations when and how they tried to meet her.

D'arcy has no contact to Jimmy Chamberlin since 1999.
James Iha doesn't respond to her since somewhere in the last two years.
The only one she had frequently contact with, via phone and mostly text messages, was Billy Corgan. Not the band...

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Old 05-15-2018, 10:24 AM   #1897
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Just so you have both sides of the story, the band said Darcy "has repeatedly been invited out to play with the group, participate in demo sessions, or at the very least, meet face-to-face, and in each and every instance she always deferred."
Yeah. I can believe that as well, but still..
Why was Billy in such a rush to get this tour off the ground when the band hadn't even played together? I mean its not like this tour HAD to be in 2018 to coincide with the 30th anniversary that covers the bands entire history, they're just playing songs from 91' to 00' after all. Why not wait until 2019 when you might actually have a band.

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Old 05-15-2018, 10:27 AM   #1898
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And why has Corgan just all the solo activities going, instead of concentrating to get the band in good shape again?

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:27 AM   #1899
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Apologies if this has already been talked about hundreds of times here by the way..

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:33 AM   #1900
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It just seems from the outside that Billy put in more time and effort into rehearsing and working with Nicole and Mike in 2010-2013 than with James and D'arcy within the last year.

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:52 AM   #1901
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SHE JUST SAID IT YOU FUCKING NOINCIMPOOPIE! jesus fucking christ are you fucking serious who needs school monnies in the banx fellaz ENJOY

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:06 PM   #1902
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And why has Corgan just all the solo activities going, instead of concentrating to get the band in good shape again?
I pointed this out a month ago. He dosen't want to do the tour anymore. The last time he gave a shit was the night before tickets went on sale when he was posting about how nervous and excited he was. The darcy shit hit, sales are meh, and he wants to take his toys and go home but he can't. He's going to bitch and moan and half-ass his way through the contract.

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:49 PM   #1903
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I pointed this out a month ago. He dosen't want to do the tour anymore. The last time he gave a shit was the night before tickets went on sale when he was posting about how nervous and excited he was. The darcy shit hit, sales are meh, and he wants to take his toys and go home but he can't. He's going to bitch and moan and half-ass his way through the contract.
His solo album recordings started before that tho. According to the interview with Lars, they didn't make plans for the reunion, they are playing America and then if there's any interest, they will bring it somewhere else.

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 04:23 PM   #1904
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will they bother to rehearse?
They are probably rehearsing now or at least preparing for tree tour. Jack is not touring with his dad anymore:

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Usually, the Light includes Hook’s son, bassist Jack Bates. However, Bates is busy preparing for an upcoming tour with the Smashing Pumpkins.
http://thebaybridged.com/2018/05/15/...-the-warfield/

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:02 PM   #1905
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they are playing America and then if there's any interest, they will bring it somewhere else.



 
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:27 PM   #1906
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Haha even B'arcy texts like a 9 year old. Saves psuedo-intellectualism for IG

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 05:29 PM   #1907
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I wonder how his texts would read had he thought the world was watching... calling incubator to thread

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 07:31 PM   #1908
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That's exactly it. They need to make people want to watch them, otherwise they won't simply book any dates outside America/Canada.

 
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:05 PM   #1909
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Official version, Corgan to NY-Times, March 2018:
“We’re going to say, ‘Look, yes, we’re brats. Yes, we’ve tested your patience. But this is our absolute best effort. We charted a very, very, very difficult path, and have rarely received the credit. This is our time to have a party — we deserve a party.”

And here it starts, going on until September:


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Old 05-16-2018, 01:30 AM   #1910
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Ah who needs to reunite..
All you need is a photo-shoot and a couple of pics for Instagram and you're good to go.

 
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Old 05-16-2018, 03:28 AM   #1911
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People forget Corgan never went to college and only read 3-4 post-modern books to be able to get passed as somewhat of a sensible intellectual. Dude is pseudo/faking it all the way to the pretend top.

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Old 05-16-2018, 05:19 AM   #1912
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he dated jessica simpson. there's no fake intellectualism here.
he believes in chem trails. there's no fake intellectualism here.
he's a wrestling fan. there's no fake intellectualism here.

 
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:42 AM   #1913
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JACK IS OUT

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You’re doing the Smashing Pumpkins reunion tour in place of D’arcy. There’s been some controversy around that online, have you found yourself in the firing line.

I’ve played with them a few times before ‘cause I’m mates with Jimmy. He’s sound like. Me dads known them for years. I don't pay no mind to this online stuff but I'm not doing the tour now anyhow.


Really? What happened?

Their guys said the old bass player didn’t want to do it but then there was all this drama on the old tinternet like Billy had messed her about a bit and she did want to do it. They got me because I would do it cheaper and I’m no fuss like. I wasn’t having any of that. I’m not eating another bassists dinner and I told them that. Billy got well mad and even called me dad.


He called your dad? (note: Jacks father is the legendary Joy Division / New Order bassist Peter Hook)

Yeah I was round me dads at the time. We were having a pint of best, watching some videos. Women trying to park, like the one where some birds trying reverse into a space and she flips the whole car over. Anyway the phone goes off and it’s Billy Corgan ranting and raving about contracts. Me dads just laughing at him and telling him where to go, he doesn’t take any crap from sixers. Then he puts me on and I tells Billy he’s calling the wrong bass player and maybe he should call the lass who used to play bass for him and apologise for being a swanny dickhead.


So you’re contractually obliged to perform with the Smashing Pumpkins?

I don’t care about any of that mate. I aint eating another bass players dinner, I just told you that and I told him that. He can come up here and talk about contracts if he likes I wont pay it no odds, I didn’t sign anything. Little prick will be going home in an ambulance. He sent me a letter because he’s too scared to come up and see me or me dad. I’m not taking anything off a six stringer. One punch, end of.


What did the letter say?

Oh I never seen anything like it in all my days. It started with “For whom it may concern”. The daft twat was writing to me, he knows me name but he wants to be all fancy like. For whom it may concern. Fucking hell. He said a load of guff about how big his bollocks are and that I don’t understand the powers I’m messing with and he can grow hair if he wants to, I don’t know what thats got to do with the price of milk. He’s puddled as a duck, if he lived round here he’d get sectioned. I’ll send it you, it’s bonkers.


Have you responded to the letter?

No I don’t know how you’d reply to a letter like that. I showed it me dad and we got a good laugh out of it. I dunno how you respond to a guy like that. He’s offering me out like he’s Hulk Hogan and saying all this nonsense like. I’d just send back two words “get help”. It’s the two extra strings I reckon it can turn some blokes nuts. Same thing happened to Barney.

 
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:24 AM   #1914
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3/10

 
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:31 AM   #1915
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Jesus Christ.

 
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Old 05-16-2018, 10:32 AM   #1916
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I wouldn't mind Ginger back though.

 
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Old 05-16-2018, 11:20 AM   #1917
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Rehearsals started

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Old 05-16-2018, 11:24 AM   #1918
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KROQ listened to one of the new songs:

https://www.facebook.com/worldfamous...5575374238424/

 
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Old 05-16-2018, 01:26 PM   #1920
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If the radio stations have started receiving the song, I imagine it will drop this Friday.

 
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