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05-31-2013, 07:09 AM | #91 |
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Great performance of "Lucky 13" >>>
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07-25-2013, 03:11 PM | #92 |
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I'm just gonna go ahead and call it right now. I bet with this reissue we don't get the whole Metro show, but just select songs, both in audio and video.
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07-25-2013, 03:35 PM | #93 |
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seriously motherfuckers still care about the metro show
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07-25-2013, 07:58 PM | #94 |
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07-25-2013, 08:04 PM | #95 |
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I got over the final Metro show a long time ago but you would expect it with the reissue of Machina, Right?
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07-25-2013, 09:04 PM | #96 |
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I could care less about the metro show what I want is the GATMOG mixes
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07-25-2013, 09:06 PM | #97 |
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I had to google GATMOG, Don't care about that shit man. All I care about is a good album. Out of all of these reissues, Adore and Machina have been the ones I've been looking forward to the most. The Machines of God shit is just stupid. hah.
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07-25-2013, 09:36 PM | #98 |
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You realize he is talking about the totally different versions of the songs used in the cartoons right?
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07-25-2013, 09:39 PM | #99 |
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I hope there's plenty of Arising tour material.
It's extremely unlikely that the entire Metro show would be released with this, but I'd be content with just the Silverfuck from that show. |
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07-25-2013, 09:46 PM | #100 |
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07-25-2013, 10:34 PM | #101 |
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http://thepumpkins.net/music/240-mus...of-god-remixes
listen to In My Body....its fucking wonderful |
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07-25-2013, 10:37 PM | #102 |
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In my body has always been one of my m2 tracks. Love that chord sequence.
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03-13-2014, 04:11 AM | #103 |
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Interview from 2000 >>>
Billy: "This will make you feel better. We've taped the last...maybe 300 shows...and there's tons of demos and unreleased songs...and we're still gonna do some more recording before we break up so...you'll be sick of us in 10 years. We'll put out more music in the next 10 years than we did in the last." ) |
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03-13-2014, 11:03 AM | #104 |
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http://www.smashingpumpkinsnexus.com...8-A5CD1BEB6FE0
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05-23-2014, 11:36 AM | #107 |
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I never understand the whole "how it was meant to be" thing with Machina. Why was the album released the way it was originally? And what kind of narrative does that album portray if it's not a double/triple album like it was "supposed" to be?
It feels like instead of acknowledging that it was a weak album with a weak concept, Billy's always blamed the record company for not having faith in him to release something extravagant. Now he finally gets to release it how he wanted to and he's still pretending that it's not because it's a weak album. |
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05-23-2014, 11:38 AM | #108 |
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I don't want any of that story bullshit. Just give me more of those sexy soundboard concerts please.
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05-23-2014, 11:38 AM | #109 |
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And for Christ's sake, release the Adore reissue already.
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05-23-2014, 12:13 PM | #110 |
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This is going to be a disaster.
oh well. we still have the original machina I & II as they were. |
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05-23-2014, 12:54 PM | #111 |
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Kid A was leaked and that is one of Radiohead's most successful albums.
I realise that SP's record company were against a double album. The album and the concept suffers from an idea that was not (and still isn't) fully realised, which went ahead anyway. It's one of those things that ideally should have been abandoned, but obviously Billy realised the band was breaking up and wanted to get one last album out no matter what. Personally, I'm not a fan of double albums and I am even less of a fan of "concept" albums anyway. |
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05-23-2014, 01:35 PM | #112 |
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"Machina" was a difficult album to get into. And part it was that the concept felt a bit amputated, on first listen I certainly didn't get the whole "Zero turns into Glass who front a band that used to be called The Smashing Pumpkins but is now the Machines of God" etc. etc. And that may or may not have been more clear if it was put together in the manner Corgan is suggesting now. That little spoken word section of Glass and the ghost children" was always both moody and helpful in terms of making the record a bit more cohesive.
So I am honestly looking forward to this and it seems everyone will get to pick their own version of The re-issue: one that is everything cleaned up a bit and one that is everything put completely re-contextualized. Everybody wins. |
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05-23-2014, 01:57 PM | #114 |
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i hate that they caved and let howie master adore. all of the extra discs that he's done have been absolutely terrible.
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05-23-2014, 03:58 PM | #115 |
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Some of his machina ideas sound awful.
But honestly, why is he announcing machina reissue news when he hasn't even announced a date for Adore? I don't think any of the previous reissues had him stringing everyone along like this. Last edited by Araneae : 05-23-2014 at 04:23 PM. |
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05-24-2014, 03:12 AM | #116 |
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05-24-2014, 04:13 AM | #117 |
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Really? In one of Billy's posts I thought he said howie mastered the actual album this time. I haven't seen any mention of Ludwig since TAFH
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05-25-2014, 04:04 AM | #120 |
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billy just needs to cut the crap.. I mean, the only thing I was even looking forward to in the machina reissue was some arising footage being released, since I'm pretty sure all of the shows were recorded.. but I'm not sure we'll be getting any of that.
billy needs to get it in his head that nobody cares about the machina storyline anymore, or whatever concept/rock opera he wants to make out of it. it was a bad and weak idea in the first place, it seems as if he came up with it just because he knew the band was gonna end (in late 1998) and he wanted them to have some kind of spectacular-triple album-rock opera-concept ending in which the band would have to act the exaggerated versions of themselves (as they were portrayed in the media), just because...... he wanted to. and he wanted to do such a thing - forgetting that there's no way his record company will let him after the poor sales of adore.. that completely ruined the already weak concept, what added more was the departure of d'arcy midway through the recording of the album and the band (besides billy) being completely disinterested in the concept.. all of that just caused to the band to end in a way billy didn't hope to, without them making a last big record.. instead, he made half a record, which was a commercial failure, then released the other half online for free, without anyone understanding whatever the fuck the concept actually was, and the band disintegrated leaving billy disappointed, so he could once again blame everyone else for his failure. so what makes him think people will actually be interested to see a concept album (which was ruined a long time ago) in its "true form"? especially whan half of the 'concept' is missing (the band playing the characters and all that shit).. |
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