Who's going to Ravinia? - Page 5

D. · 08-31-2014, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amoergosum

Here we go >>>

This is my friend's video.

paranoid · 08-31-2014, 12:36 PM

Really weird song to have a group of beefcakes sing along to

amoergosum · 08-31-2014, 12:43 PM

This dude brought a shake weight >>>

http://i.giflike.com/Ai1wxxN.gif

amoergosum · 08-31-2014, 12:54 PM

http://i.giflike.com/L82No7E.gif

http://cbswxrt2.files.wordpress.com/..._385.jpg?w=420

Gooch · 08-31-2014, 12:58 PM

He sold out. That's all. In that article, the mgmt of ravinia were pushing him to play certain songs, at least that's my interpretation of that article with ravinias owner. They wanted him to play the hits.

Not fair to have fans go crazy with dream set lists and then deliver with a greatest hits show. IMHO. Even to tease with the idea of "whir" and the winning set list thing, made everyone feel like this was gonna be unique. Unique-er at least. Having to go through the spfc.org list to figure out what songs to play. He could have just asked any random music exec what to play, which looks like what he did here. He did he exact thing he said he would never do. That's not like billy!

paranoid · 08-31-2014, 01:08 PM

Oh for Christ sakes. He only played a small handful of hits and left out a bunch of others. There was still a decent amount of surprises.

Lack of Gish though is screwy.

Forgotten Child · 08-31-2014, 01:10 PM

http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/0...rt-in-chicago/

official setlist:

Setlist:
VIP rehearsal
The Killing Moon (Echo & The Bunnymen cover)
Purr Snickety (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Owata (The Smashing Pumpkins)

Main Set
Chicago
Today (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Disarm (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Lonely is the Name
As Time Draws Near
For Your Love (Zwan)
The Rose March (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Perfect (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Let Me Give the World to You (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Prairie Song (Zwan)
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (The Smashing Pumpkins)
To Forgive (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Muzzle (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Tonight, Tonight (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Galapogos (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Methusela (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Thirty-Three (The Smashing Pumpkins)
1979 (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Now (And Then)
The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning (The Smashing Pumpkins)
The Crying Tree of Mercury (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Ava Adore (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Pinwheels (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Stand Inside Your Love (The Smashing Pumpkins)
Which Way You Goin’ Billy? (The Poppy Family cover)
Burnt Orange-Black

Encore:
The World’s Fair
Of a Broken Heart (Zwan song)

Bullet1979 · 08-31-2014, 01:21 PM

I posted my not-so-great audio recording of the show over here... http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=181387

Forgotten Child · 08-31-2014, 01:44 PM

It sounds pretty good! Thanks for that!

Burnt Orange-Black sounds promising!

amoergosum · 03:18 PM

amoergosum · 03:26 PM

New song >>>

"Burnt Orange-Black"

"Ava Adore" >>>

"Let Me Give The World To You" >>>

Araneae · 08-31-2014, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paranoid

Unless I missed something here about each bit of the song compiled together?

No, you're right. I read it too fast, as I was on my way out, and I thought it said he played samples of each song for the suite.

In that case, not thrilled with what he did to muzzle. Somehow he managed to make such a hopeful song sound like it's drowning in despair and resignation.

paranoid · 08-31-2014, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockLobster

A small handful isn't 8 singles...

Eh. It's not even half the set.

Fans would have to be pretty naive to not expect some hits for a show like this, ESPECIALLY a career retrospective. The only shot we have of him playing only deep cut is if he throws together a one off at his coffee shop.

marce · 08-31-2014, 04:44 PM

Overall it was a great set that built up from very minimal performances to a very fun electronic section that ended with Ava Adore and got everybody on their feet. The only problem was the last section of songs played in a folkier way with guests (Sierra Swan and Ex Cops); it just felt weaker and unnecesary. I guess Corgan wanted to end the show with his friends but it just felt weird and weak compared to the rest of the set that was really strong and tight.

Does anyone know anything about the song As Time Draws Near? I cannot place it. It did sound somewhat like Mama from the residencies, but I guess it could also be from the Chicago songs.

Forgotten Child · 08-31-2014, 05:33 PM

As Time Draws Near is a cover, a traditional song.

I really enjoyed it, I also think the setlist is a little obvious tho. Most of those songs have being played over the previous years.

For example, He could have replaced Today or Disarm by Rocket, which is also a single/hit, but a less obvious choice. Crush, Whir or Suffer would perfectly fit in this setlist.

This was a unique opportunity to play rarer songs, but Billy chose to play a safe set.

That said, apart from Lonely Is The Name, I enjoyed every song!

Elphenor · 08-31-2014, 05:45 PM

Ughhh

His vocals are still bleck

Pizza Club · 08-31-2014, 06:36 PM

The setlist was great. Yes, I could have done without Today > Disarm and I was sure that it was just going to be another hit parade. The rest of the night I had no idea what was coming. \We got plenty of treats - 9 songs that had only been played once, or not at all and even more songs that haven't been played in almost 10 years.

Ram27 · 08-31-2014, 06:49 PM

There's a huge quality distinction between Muzzle on acoustic/piano and electric triplet fills kickass Muzzle.

Stop playing Muzzle acoustic please

D. · 08-31-2014, 07:10 PM

i actually really really liked how he did muzzle; must be in the minority

slunken · 08-31-2014, 07:45 PM

Nah ram is just an idiot

themadcaplaughs · 08-31-2014, 07:49 PM

No real issues with the set. As others have said, he was bound to play some hits. It is an amphitheater show after all.

I am glad to see he pulled out "The Rose March." That still remains one of the best songs from 2007-2008 and one of the best songs he's written since bringing Smashing Pumpkins back.

Never been keen on "Pinwheels" though. I do not know why he keeps pimping that song; it's one of the most forgettable he's written. If he wanted a TbK/Oceania era song that, in my opinion, would have had the same vibe, I'd say "Tom, Tom" or "A Stitch in Time."

Beyond that though, no complaints at all. Cool to see Lonely is the Name (I REALLY wanted that one to be on Teargarden by Kaleidyscope) and a debut of a new song. Debut of "Methusela" is cool as well.

SPLATTER · 08-31-2014, 09:19 PM

his singing is terrible

killtrocity · 08-31-2014, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amoergosum

"Burnt Orange-Black"

This is really, really cool. Like, I don't have to rationalize why I like it, it's just a nice song

D. · 08-31-2014, 09:47 PM

that song is terrible

The Elliott · 08-31-2014, 10:46 PM

Well I'll be damned if the solo in Burnt Orange-Black isn't the same solo as the 2000 live version of Blew Away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kmee6Oglr4

reprise85 · 08-31-2014, 11:28 PM

billy corgan logic: end a show with a new song that isn't even on the new album and will probably never be released

Bread Regal · 09-01-2014, 12:08 AM

really don't care since the song is good.

Bread Regal · 09-01-2014, 12:14 AM

tbqh if he toured on setlists like this, i'd actually go.

amoergosum · 09-01-2014, 12:54 AM

"Owata"

"Perfect"

"The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning"

"Methuselah"

"The Rose March"

D. · 09-01-2014, 01:10 AM

i really hope he hears nothing but good about this and decides to just do this solo/friends jam shit.

it won't happen but goddamn i wish. just tour everywhere in smaller venues and just bullshit around, jam with even some famous local musicians as a surprise or something.

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amoergosum Minion of Satan Posts: 6,014	New song >>> "Burnt Orange-Black" "Ava Adore" >>> "Let Me Give The World To You" >>> Last edited by amoergosum : 08-31-2014 at 03:26 PM.

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08-31-2014, 12:36 PM	#122
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	Really weird song to have a group of beefcakes sing along to

08-31-2014, 12:43 PM	#123
amoergosum Minion of Satan Posts: 6,014	This dude brought a shake weight >>> http://i.giflike.com/Ai1wxxN.gif

08-31-2014, 12:54 PM	#124
amoergosum Minion of Satan Posts: 6,014	http://i.giflike.com/L82No7E.gif http://cbswxrt2.files.wordpress.com/..._385.jpg?w=420

08-31-2014, 12:58 PM	#125
Gooch Apocalyptic Poster Location: Pancakes in my area Posts: 1,553	He sold out. That's all. In that article, the mgmt of ravinia were pushing him to play certain songs, at least that's my interpretation of that article with ravinias owner. They wanted him to play the hits. Not fair to have fans go crazy with dream set lists and then deliver with a greatest hits show. IMHO. Even to tease with the idea of "whir" and the winning set list thing, made everyone feel like this was gonna be unique. Unique-er at least. Having to go through the spfc.org list to figure out what songs to play. He could have just asked any random music exec what to play, which looks like what he did here. He did he exact thing he said he would never do. That's not like billy!

08-31-2014, 01:08 PM	#126
paranoid Minion of Satan Location: up a tree Posts: 7,521	Oh for Christ sakes. He only played a small handful of hits and left out a bunch of others. There was still a decent amount of surprises. Lack of Gish though is screwy.

08-31-2014, 01:10 PM	#127
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 4,876	http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/0...rt-in-chicago/ official setlist: Setlist: VIP rehearsal The Killing Moon (Echo & The Bunnymen cover) Purr Snickety (The Smashing Pumpkins) Owata (The Smashing Pumpkins) Main Set Chicago Today (The Smashing Pumpkins) Disarm (The Smashing Pumpkins) Lonely is the Name As Time Draws Near For Your Love (Zwan) The Rose March (The Smashing Pumpkins) Perfect (The Smashing Pumpkins) Let Me Give the World to You (The Smashing Pumpkins) Prairie Song (Zwan) Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (The Smashing Pumpkins) To Forgive (The Smashing Pumpkins) Muzzle (The Smashing Pumpkins) Tonight, Tonight (The Smashing Pumpkins) Galapogos (The Smashing Pumpkins) Methusela (The Smashing Pumpkins) Thirty-Three (The Smashing Pumpkins) 1979 (The Smashing Pumpkins) Now (And Then) The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning (The Smashing Pumpkins) The Crying Tree of Mercury (The Smashing Pumpkins) Ava Adore (The Smashing Pumpkins) Pinwheels (The Smashing Pumpkins) Stand Inside Your Love (The Smashing Pumpkins) Which Way You Goin’ Billy? (The Poppy Family cover) Burnt Orange-Black Encore: The World’s Fair Of a Broken Heart (Zwan song)

08-31-2014, 01:21 PM	#128
Bullet1979 Pledge Posts: 120	I posted my not-so-great audio recording of the show over here... http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=181387

08-31-2014, 01:44 PM	#129
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 4,876	It sounds pretty good! Thanks for that! Burnt Orange-Black sounds promising!

08-31-2014, 04:44 PM	#134
marce Pledge Posts: 116	Overall it was a great set that built up from very minimal performances to a very fun electronic section that ended with Ava Adore and got everybody on their feet. The only problem was the last section of songs played in a folkier way with guests (Sierra Swan and Ex Cops); it just felt weaker and unnecesary. I guess Corgan wanted to end the show with his friends but it just felt weird and weak compared to the rest of the set that was really strong and tight. Does anyone know anything about the song As Time Draws Near? I cannot place it. It did sound somewhat like Mama from the residencies, but I guess it could also be from the Chicago songs.

08-31-2014, 05:33 PM	#135
Forgotten Child Apocalyptic Poster Location: SP, Sao Paulo - Brazil Posts: 4,876	As Time Draws Near is a cover, a traditional song. I really enjoyed it, I also think the setlist is a little obvious tho. Most of those songs have being played over the previous years. For example, He could have replaced Today or Disarm by Rocket, which is also a single/hit, but a less obvious choice. Crush, Whir or Suffer would perfectly fit in this setlist. This was a unique opportunity to play rarer songs, but Billy chose to play a safe set. That said, apart from Lonely Is The Name, I enjoyed every song!

08-31-2014, 05:45 PM	#136
Elphenor Braindead Location: TX Posts: 16,289	Ughhh His vocals are still bleck

08-31-2014, 06:36 PM	#137
Pizza Club Apocalyptic Poster Location: you sound like a casual fan. Posts: 3,458	The setlist was great. Yes, I could have done without Today > Disarm and I was sure that it was just going to be another hit parade. The rest of the night I had no idea what was coming. \We got plenty of treats - 9 songs that had only been played once, or not at all and even more songs that haven't been played in almost 10 years.

08-31-2014, 06:49 PM	#138
Ram27 dumb Location: $8.6 million embezzled funds Posts: 11,367	There's a huge quality distinction between Muzzle on acoustic/piano and electric triplet fills kickass Muzzle. Stop playing Muzzle acoustic please

08-31-2014, 07:10 PM	#139
D. Consume my pants. Location: Missouri Posts: 36,099	i actually really really liked how he did muzzle; must be in the minority

08-31-2014, 07:45 PM	#140
slunken Virgo Posts: 42,781	Nah ram is just an idiot

08-31-2014, 07:49 PM	#141
themadcaplaughs Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,626	No real issues with the set. As others have said, he was bound to play some hits. It is an amphitheater show after all. I am glad to see he pulled out "The Rose March." That still remains one of the best songs from 2007-2008 and one of the best songs he's written since bringing Smashing Pumpkins back. Never been keen on "Pinwheels" though. I do not know why he keeps pimping that song; it's one of the most forgettable he's written. If he wanted a TbK/Oceania era song that, in my opinion, would have had the same vibe, I'd say "Tom, Tom" or "A Stitch in Time." Beyond that though, no complaints at all. Cool to see Lonely is the Name (I REALLY wanted that one to be on Teargarden by Kaleidyscope) and a debut of a new song. Debut of "Methusela" is cool as well.

08-31-2014, 09:19 PM	#142
SPLATTER Demi-God Location: New York Posts: 424	his singing is terrible

08-31-2014, 09:47 PM	#144
D. Consume my pants. Location: Missouri Posts: 36,099	that song is terrible

08-31-2014, 10:46 PM	#145
The Elliott Pledge Location: The Bog of Eternal Stench Posts: 61	Well I'll be damned if the solo in Burnt Orange-Black isn't the same solo as the 2000 live version of Blew Away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kmee6Oglr4

08-31-2014, 11:28 PM	#146
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	billy corgan logic: end a show with a new song that isn't even on the new album and will probably never be released

09-01-2014, 12:08 AM	#147
Bread Regal Banned Posts: 5,711	really don't care since the song is good.

09-01-2014, 12:14 AM	#148
Bread Regal Banned Posts: 5,711	tbqh if he toured on setlists like this, i'd actually go.

09-01-2014, 12:54 AM	#149
amoergosum Minion of Satan Posts: 6,014	"Owata" "Perfect" "The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning" "Methuselah" "The Rose March"

09-01-2014, 01:10 AM	#150
D. Consume my pants. Location: Missouri Posts: 36,099	i really hope he hears nothing but good about this and decides to just do this solo/friends jam shit. it won't happen but goddamn i wish. just tour everywhere in smaller venues and just bullshit around, jam with even some famous local musicians as a surprise or something.