Smashing Pumpkins 'Shiny And Oh So Bright' Tour 2018

[Ram27]

Originally Posted by cardiac

Whoa. He sounds humble here. What I get from this is that he knows that people are sceptical about the tour, but he has a multi-year plan. According to him the point of the reunion was always to make new music. He sounds sincere when he says it. You can hear that the whole D'arcy thing is a painful subject to him. He's not his usual shit-talker here.

I just can't trust him anymore. I'm sure he can sound sincere if he wants

[enthusaroo]

Jeff is a piece of shit.

[eviltimeban]

I wished that "Mancow" would've shut up and let Billy talk about D'Arcy - he was saying something like "there's a time and a place, and this just wasn't the right time". I would've liked to have him have the opportunity to say if there was a chance the time might be in the future.

As an aside, I found that Mancow guy really horrible to listen to.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

IS IT A MAN?
OR IS IT A COW?
we will never know

[Forgotten Child]

Originally Posted by WeilandFan

I would think that they'll place James on one side of Billy, and Jeff on the other with Jack Bates in the background, kind of like The Rolling Stones do with their touring bassist. If Jack is up front and prominent it will probably confuse a lot of casual fans.

I doubt it. I think it's gonna be more like Zwan

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/34R5imTMbIg/hqdefault.jpg

[Butt Pope]

Originally Posted by Ram27

I just can't trust him anymore. I'm sure he can sound sincere if he wants

Yeah.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me monthly from 2003-2018, shame on me.

[pavementtune]

Originally Posted by T&T

but I assume there's gonna be lots of people who are gonna be thinking
"100$ ticket show for a 90's band... I'm only going to pick one.."

Radiohead tickets are indeed 99$ on presale (for MSG).

What is a realistic price for SP for the same venues? 70?

[Rider]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

Radiohead tickets are indeed 99$ on presale (for MSG).

What is a realistic price for SP for the same venues? 70?

No price. It's absurd for him to think he can fill that place. There really is no price point in my head where he can cover the cost of MSG and make money. He would either need to offer prices so low he would lose money or offer a price too high to bring in people who aren't really fans of the band to fill the place.

I honestly can't figure out who bankrolled and greenlit this tour. After Oceana and him being stuck in larger venues because of that stupid globe he insisted on using most promoters won't go near him.

I feel he either had to do some deal where he takes added financial liability for the tour or he found someone really delusional to bankroll this.

[OffTopicMan]

This is the new budget Bon Jovi. Love it, omfg I don't have to spend $200 a gig anymore.
The "You give Bolly a bad name tour" can't wait!!! Hurry!!

[SPLATTER]

Originally Posted by cardiac

Whoa. He sounds humble here. What I get from this is that he knows that people are sceptical about the tour, but he has a multi-year plan. According to him the point of the reunion was always to make new music. He sounds sincere when he says it. You can hear that the whole D'arcy thing is a painful subject to him. He's not his usual shit-talker here.

cmon ... how many times have we seen this heard this act before.

the very fact he's sounding humble talking to a POS like mancow who posted the darcy pic in the first place and for some reason in this interview feels a need to act like she's a horrible person just proves how fake and classless billy is.

i don't mind a dude selling out. i don't even mind someone being hypocritical about selling out.

i do mind being a dick who goes on alex jones and supports trump and compares BLM to KKK and tells his own fans they suck and makes big promises that never deliver.

[Forgotten Child]

Yet, an improvement. If that happened 5 years ago I'm sure he would've reacted differently, in a bad way.

[Corgan's Bluff]

Why did Corgan talk at ManCow Muller's radio show two days after the disgusting photo content at all? To underline the reputation of Muller without saying himself bad words about D'arcy? One could think so, because he could have taken the opportunity to say that he disliked the D'arcy content or that D'arcy's friend said, she got attacked.

This is to me just another, passive aggressive, way of Corgan to express that D'arcy couldn't be on the tour.

[MplsTaper]

Losing more and more interest to buy a ticket.

[amoergosum]

Together, again. #SP2018 #siamesedream #smashingpumpkins #new pic.twitter.com/OCSmxASsxL

— Smashing Pumpkins (@SmashingPumpkin) February 21, 2018

[reprise85]

that's sweet

[ava transformer]

Originally Posted by SPLATTER

cmon ... how many times have we seen this heard this act before.

the very fact he's sounding humble talking to a POS like mancow who posted the darcy pic in the first place and for some reason in this interview feels a need to act like she's a horrible person just proves how fake and classless billy is.

i don't mind a dude selling out. i don't even mind someone being hypocritical about selling out.

i do mind being a dick who goes on alex jones and supports trump and compares BLM to KKK and tells his own fans they suck and makes big promises that never deliver.

THIS.. I had actually stopped listening to SP for over a year because of his BLM comments and left the FB fan groups because they became alt right instead of alternative. As a black woman I'm still wrestling with all of it & for the first time in 24 years I didn't attend a BC or SP show. I didn't buy Oogly Boogly. And I don't plan to.. I'm Natalie Imbruglia Torn..

[cork_soaker]

Originally Posted by Funbags

The Mancow interview with Billy begins at 57 minutes or so...

http://www.wlup.com/2018/02/16/bret-ernst-joins-mancow/

listening to radio personalities is immediately exhausting

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by reprise85

that's sweet

yes
aw

[cork_soaker]

nwa coming back with billy

he's bringing it back

are you cantankerous??? (u can play better than jack bates, no?)

here's what i think

he sounds very excited about this

he's got a tea shop

the band is back together

tell your brother i said hi

i'll be at the kansas city show

secret metro show, i'm saying it now

sioux falls, south dakota

i like show tunes

[FoolofaTook]

Say what you want, Mancow's got a pretty dapper lookin' goatee.

[KissesandNoise]

Originally Posted by ava transformer

THIS.. I had actually stopped listening to SP for over a year because of his BLM comments and left the FB fan groups because they became alt right instead of alternative. As a black woman I'm still wrestling with all of it & for the first time in 24 years I didn't attend a BC or SP show. I didn't buy Oogly Boogly. And I don't plan to.. I'm Natalie Imbruglia Torn..

It wasn't BLM, it was SJW. Big difference. The former is rooted in social injustice while the latter needs to be cut off from their trust fund and get a job.

[KissesandNoise]

The Salon.com piece: wow, that was actually a smart and informed discussion on D'arcy and women's role in SP. I thought it was going to feminist circle jerk (finger?) hit piece of misinformation and reverse sexism meant to hurt credibility and ticket sales. I'm surprised.

[reprise85]

oh god, another one

[pavementtune]

Originally Posted by reprise85

oh god, another one

well...

Originally Posted by ava transformer

and left the FB fan groups because they became alt right

and that isn't enough apparently.

seriously though, do you guys not have like 7 SP groups and reddit where you can go with your "reverse"- horseshit, does it have to be here as well?

[slunken]

When things get rough, they always come home.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

even though the aeroplane flew high and turned left, it still looked right. we mustn't ignore this.

[Kahlo]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

even though the aeroplane flew high and turned left, it still looked right. we mustn't ignore this.

It's a sine!

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110817031411

[jimmy drevpile]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

even though the aeroplane flew high and turned left, it still looked right. we mustn't ignore this.

http://newmediarockstars.com/wp-cont...2.48.12-PM.png

[KissesandNoise]

Originally Posted by Funbags

I love it

I hated it at first. Refused a shirt at the 2 ZWAN shows I went to. Now I like it and wish I got a shirt

[smashingjj]

ugh