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Old 04-08-2012, 07:53 PM   #1
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Not voting for Obama would be unconscionable because of who the right could potentially put on the supreme court, given its current composition.

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:03 PM   #2
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you mean what the court is already doing?

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:05 PM   #3
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why am i expected to believe that obama would be less likely to appoint judges that rule against civil liberties since he's already authorized the assassination of an american citizen without due process and many other examples of abuse and expansion of executive power?

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:18 PM   #4
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Obvious valid criticism of Obama...

So you're saying there's not a big enough difference between Scalia/alito and Kagan/sotomayor to stop you from not voting or voting third party (of which there's currently no viable candidate). Not saying this is wrong just wanting some clarification.

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Old 04-08-2012, 08:20 PM   #5
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why am i expected to believe that obama would be less likely to appoint judges that rule against civil liberties since he's already authorized the assassination of an american citizen without due process and many other examples of abuse and expansion of executive power?
because he already has appointed judges that are less likely to rule against civil liberties?

you really don't think these things through, do you?

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:21 PM   #6
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Yeah I was gonna say that but I didn't want to escalate things so quickly, thanks!

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:26 PM   #7
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i mean he just called out (rather weirdly, imo) the conservative justices on the court but yeah he'd probably just nominate another john roberts

jesus christ trots

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 08:29 PM   #8
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if all the liberal justices were young and healthy then fine, whatever. but i don't know how many years rbg has left in her. it would be an absolute disaster if she died/retired with a republican in office.

just terrible. we'd be fucked.

 
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:28 PM   #9
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what a stressful election. gonna be a long year...

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:11 AM   #10
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because he already has appointed judges that are less likely to rule against civil liberties?

you really don't think these things through, do you?
lol

the president can now assassinate anyone without trial

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 08:12 AM   #11
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do i need to repeat that

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:02 AM   #12
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*headdesk*

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:20 PM   #13
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i'm sure my one vote for obama in texas will make all the difference

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:31 PM   #14
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i'm sure my one vote for obama in texas will make all the difference
if this is your reasoning, then that's fine. but anyone in a swing state can't deny the importance of a potential supreme court nomination in the next four years.

the continued expansion of executive power is a different (but still important) issue. we just can't afford to have a romney-nominated justice replace ginsburg.

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:37 PM   #15
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why not the whole country is going down the toilet anyway

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:41 PM   #16
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why not the whole country is going down the toilet anyway

You gotta have hope

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:41 PM   #17
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also, rather selfishly, there could be a number of decisions concerning the gays in the coming years.

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:04 PM   #18
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the gays

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:18 PM   #19
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oh you mean the effort to outlaw heterosexuality and make marriage a thing of the past

i listen to rush, i know what the gays are up to

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:36 PM   #20
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the gays the gays the gays

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 04:26 PM   #21
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what's your deal?

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:16 PM   #22
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lol

the president can now assassinate anyone without trial
Any president can always do this whenever they want.

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:18 PM   #23
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also, rather selfishly, there could be a number of decisions concerning the gays in the coming years.
Yeah it's insane how many "normal" people just don't give a shit about this because they're in their little bubble.

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:12 PM   #24
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It doesn't matter what your point of view is, Trots will bitch about it. Heck, if you put him on a message board with himself, he'd just attack his own posts and object to everything he says. Vote Obama, he attacks you. Vote Paul, he attacks you. Vote Romney, he attacks you. Don't take it personally, bros.

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:32 PM   #25
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Well all those candidates do suck but the point is choosing the lesser evil to impact concrete, foreseeable decisions that will affect the future of our race, i.e. supreme court nominees, for the gays and other issues

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:33 PM   #26
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Instead of just saying FUCK THE SYSTEM and taking your ball and going home

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:45 PM   #27
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There's no way you're going to guilt trip me out of this, abstaining from voting is accepted on the congress floor i don't know why you guys have to act like it's LIFE OR DEATH IF YOU DON'T DO SOMETHING

you have absolutely no control over this how are you not getting that

 
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Old 04-09-2012, 11:48 PM   #28
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Do what you want. It will be your fault when Eulogy can't visit his dying partner in the hospital.

 
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Old 04-10-2012, 12:19 AM   #29
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I think everyone in this thread needs a drink.

 
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Old 04-10-2012, 02:19 AM   #30
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Do what you want. It will be your fault when Eulogy can't visit his dying partner in the hospital.
No it won't because I live in Texas and my vote doesn't count and also I don't appoint or approve supreme court justices.

 
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