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03-29-2014, 10:09 AM | #31 |
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YEAH JULIANA, MONTE IS SMARTER THAN ME BECAUSE I'M SECRETLY JEALOUS OF MIKE BYRNE.
It has nothing at all do with me deep down just not enjoying the current bands studio or live sound anymore. |
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03-29-2014, 10:10 AM | #32 |
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Jesus juliana, it's gonna be okay.
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03-29-2014, 10:11 AM | #33 | |
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1) like I said before. The criticizing was about criticizing before it even happened. 2) no one had to sit there 8 hours and listen. In fact, you were expected to leave after two. 3) who gives a fuck what corgan does in his shitty little teashop. Let him have his toys and what not. |
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03-29-2014, 10:13 AM | #34 | |
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You said so. |
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03-29-2014, 10:18 AM | #35 |
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I wonder if Fuzzy sent in a video of himself drumming to corg and got ignored and when Mike was chosen he was so jealous he had to binge drink.
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03-29-2014, 10:21 AM | #36 | |
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2) How can you be a viewer of a performance and only sit their for a quarter of it and come to a valid conclusion of its merits? 3)The people who who come out to the event obviously. Corgan can have his "toys"... But as long as he's putting on public performances, he's going to have to live with the publics opinion. Seems pretty straightforward to me, Juliana. |
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03-29-2014, 10:25 AM | #37 | |
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But the topic comes up a lot. I know I "beat a dead horse" with this topic. And I'll shut up about it (lord knows I've went on about it enough). I just had to stress how important I thought Jimmys dynamics were to the band. And I felt the need to bring it up when people like you would be raving about how great the new band was... Cause honestly, I just don't hear it... And this is a SP discussion board afterall |
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03-29-2014, 10:27 AM | #38 | |
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But looking back in hindsight, if you only had to be as good as Byrne I would have had a shot. I'm guessing you had to be an American to join though. |
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03-29-2014, 10:30 AM | #39 |
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you listened to it for 8 hours?
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03-29-2014, 10:34 AM | #40 |
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03-29-2014, 10:39 AM | #41 |
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If you were there you'd be kicked out after 2 hours, dummy roes.
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03-29-2014, 10:54 AM | #42 | ||
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This is exactly why the writer of that piece should consider spending more time writing about more important things. There's no artistic merit to what Billy is doing at his teashop and shouldn't be treated as such. It's just a means for him to get attention for his shop and to sell tea. Asking Chicago critics to encourage and support Billy in everything he does just because he used to live in Chicago is absurd, critics are not cheerleaders. |
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03-29-2014, 10:55 AM | #43 | |
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The tribune writer who wrote that about corgan wanted to speak out about what happened. What he wrote isn't a love letter to corgan, it is more about chicago not shitting on itself. B) the journalists that wrote stuff about corgan never watched the whole thing. They were kicked out. C) people are entitled to their opinions. The writer is saying keep an open mind. Honestly, failing is much more important in creative development than success. I actually think corgan succeeded in what he set out to do. Bring interest to his teashop, brand it as an art space, fiddle around with shity box with knobs till he had to go to the bathroom. What the fuck were you expecting? |
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03-29-2014, 11:03 AM | #44 | |
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Huppke then went on to demand that corgan give the his collegue an apology. Many other reporters joined in on twitter. Many including HU defended corgan because of the obvious hypocrisy. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...ans-siddhartha |
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03-29-2014, 11:15 AM | #45 |
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Lots of dudes above. Yawn, I don't care to tell the story properly.
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03-29-2014, 11:36 AM | #46 | |
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I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue at this point... And frankly, I really don't even care. You seem angry that writers pointed out that Corgans performance was shit... You're argument is "WELL OF COURSE IT WAS GOING TO BE SHIT- SO WHY WRITE ABOUT IT!?" Well, to write about it is their job. Let's face it, Corgans performance missed the mark. It wasn't even enjoyable in the slightest. So I believe that all of the criticism that he garnered is well deserved. No ones saying that he shouldn't take chances and explore different territories. But if he's going to perform it publicly he's going to have to be open to criticism. |
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03-29-2014, 11:39 AM | #47 |
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Look Juliana, I think it's cool that Corgans trying new things and thinking outside the box too. Sure he missed the mark, but it is possible that this could be the beginning of some exciting new things. I'm personally not counting on it but anythings possible.
What I don't understand is why you're so flabbergasted by the write-ups and opinion pieces? They all seem pretty justified if you ask me. |
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03-29-2014, 11:46 AM | #48 | |
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03-29-2014, 11:47 AM | #49 |
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Missed what mark? What mark is this over weight, middle aged tea shop owner supposed to hit? It was an event where he said he would be creating some texture to go along with a book. It wasn't a performance in the rockstar sense. It is a dude playing with a box thing with knobs.
What he did is what I expected. |
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03-29-2014, 11:54 AM | #50 | |
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03-29-2014, 12:08 PM | #51 |
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Yes, that's what it reads like to me. It's a blog opinion piece that is trying to get on Corgan's good side so that not all Tribune associates are turned away from future events. I personally don't think it's good for criticism or journalism to be catering to every whim from celebrities and artists, that's the real problem I have with this article, this notion of supporting "weird" for the sake of weird. Billy never had a real problem with the Tribune in the past until that Huppke article, but he does have residual bitchiness towards the Sun-Times and Chicagoist, so I guess another one was just added to the list.
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03-29-2014, 12:13 PM | #52 |
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03-29-2014, 12:14 PM | #53 |
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03-29-2014, 12:16 PM | #54 |
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I think that the dude who got kicked out was more in cahoots than with huppke than it seems. His mistake was he tweeted directly to madam z and sp that he would be there tweeting live while huppke tweets Garfield, he also shared the article. A few hours later no cellphones announced and then that dude was kicked out when the event started.
I think artists should be criticized but I think Billy is often shit on no matter what he does. Actually same happened with MCIS but it became popular. |
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03-29-2014, 12:23 PM | #55 | |
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Don't own his poetry book Don't own his tea Don't own zeitgeist, tafh, tafh reissue mcis reissue, teargarden. I stopped listening to SP from 2004 to 2011. Please explain how you are not obsessed? |
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03-29-2014, 12:26 PM | #56 |
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And here is the trots fan club. Ready to attack me.
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03-29-2014, 12:29 PM | #57 |
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Don't forget to throw in a bunch of, you are just like monte stalking him and shit.
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03-29-2014, 12:30 PM | #58 |
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03-29-2014, 12:33 PM | #60 |
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Who doesn't?
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