Just saw Goo Goo dolls live a couple weeks ago - Page 2

Trotskilicious · 03-21-2014, 03:07 AM

uh okay

Trotskilicious · 03-21-2014, 03:07 AM

it's really too bad i don't like shitty uninspired generic alt rock from 20 years ago, i'm very narrow minded

redbreegull · 03-21-2014, 03:12 AM

it's just too bad you're such an ass

fuzzyroes · 03-21-2014, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

but you're right, pearl jam and soundgarden aren't really pop

and bill wrote really great pop songs but didn't exclusively do pop

nirvana is dirty, nasty pop. like his idols before him

Pop to me has always represented a super-melodic, catchy, safe or easily digestible type of music. Of course the true definition of pop is "popular" so technically anything that's been released that's sold a bunch of copies could be considered pop... But I don't really see it that way.

Even so, bands like Nirvana definitely have pop elements. Same with Soundgarden. Black Hole Sun is pretty much a straight up pop song.

Catherine Wheel · 03-22-2014, 07:28 AM

Really? How is Black Hole Sun "pretty much a pop song?" It's grunge with elements of psychedelia and hard rock. Not pop at all.

Catherine Wheel · 03-22-2014, 07:56 AM

Now if you had said that All Apologies was pretty much a straightforward pop song I would be inclined to agree with you. But nothing Soundgarden has ever done approaches that.

redbreegull · 03-22-2014, 02:08 PM

It's a pop song because it was popular, and especially because that sound represents a markedly more palatable phase of Soundgarden's career in comparison with their earlier music.

however it's not "pop" in the sonic sense that the goo goo dolls are with tons vocal harmonies and and copious hooks, 4 chord major key progressions with light distortion, etc, which is more in the vein of what most people would consider 90s pop music.

but come on dude, grunge is not a thing, it's a label invented by people who wanted to sell flannel shirts

D. · 03-22-2014, 04:34 PM

I love that Tal Bachman song. And that matchbox 20 song.

: popboi :

Trotskilicious · 03-23-2014, 03:30 PM

pearl jam and soundgarden are definitive grunge

redbreegull · 03-24-2014, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.

I love that Tal Bachman song. And that matchbox 20 song.

: popboi :

the tal bachman song is great

reprise85 · 03-24-2014, 03:11 AM

i owned that album but only liked a couple of the songs. listening now on spotify. thanks internet

reprise85 · 03-24-2014, 03:26 AM

yep. still sucks

FlamingGlobes · 06-26-2016, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphenor

We already have 10 of these threads at this point because you're too lazy to bump an older one

I think about you all the time, but I don't need the same.

fuzzyroes · 06-26-2016, 07:30 PM

I was reading some article awhile back that mentioned how the Goo Goo Dolls got screwed by an awful record contract and pretty much saw no royalties or money from their records when they were at their popularity peak.

It was mentioned on one of those click-bait lists, so I'm not sure the validity of it but it would explain why they're still slogging it out playing mostly old music. The band really is conducive to a live setting though. I'd definitely go see em again.

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03-21-2014, 03:07 AM	#31
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	uh okay

03-21-2014, 03:12 AM	#33
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	it's just too bad you're such an ass

03-22-2014, 07:28 AM	#35
Catherine Wheel Banned Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 6,310	Really? How is Black Hole Sun "pretty much a pop song?" It's grunge with elements of psychedelia and hard rock. Not pop at all.

03-22-2014, 07:56 AM	#36
Catherine Wheel Banned Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 6,310	Now if you had said that All Apologies was pretty much a straightforward pop song I would be inclined to agree with you. But nothing Soundgarden has ever done approaches that.

03-22-2014, 02:08 PM	#37
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: N3t4Euh Haus Posts: 32,753	It's a pop song because it was popular, and especially because that sound represents a markedly more palatable phase of Soundgarden's career in comparison with their earlier music. however it's not "pop" in the sonic sense that the goo goo dolls are with tons vocal harmonies and and copious hooks, 4 chord major key progressions with light distortion, etc, which is more in the vein of what most people would consider 90s pop music. but come on dude, grunge is not a thing, it's a label invented by people who wanted to sell flannel shirts

03-22-2014, 04:34 PM	#38
D. Consume my pants. Location: Missouri Posts: 36,099	I love that Tal Bachman song. And that matchbox 20 song. : popboi :

03-23-2014, 03:30 PM	#39
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,439	pearl jam and soundgarden are definitive grunge

03-24-2014, 03:11 AM	#41
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	i owned that album but only liked a couple of the songs. listening now on spotify. thanks internet

03-24-2014, 03:26 AM	#42
reprise85 BOTTLEG ILLEGAL Location: I'm faced with so many changes that I just might change my face Posts: 32,800	yep. still sucks

06-26-2016, 07:30 PM	#44
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,169	I was reading some article awhile back that mentioned how the Goo Goo Dolls got screwed by an awful record contract and pretty much saw no royalties or money from their records when they were at their popularity peak. It was mentioned on one of those click-bait lists, so I'm not sure the validity of it but it would explain why they're still slogging it out playing mostly old music. The band really is conducive to a live setting though. I'd definitely go see em again.