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Old 09-02-2018, 06:40 PM   #91
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I don't think it's just the use of Art Deco that's reminiscent of Nazi imagery. Art Deco is ubiquitous, and not everything that recalls it looks Naziish.

I mean, there are several elements of Art Deco that probably run contrary to the Nazi Germany artistic ethos, anyway. The focus on abstracting forms to simple but striking stylistic elements, rather than following the classical Greek and Roman practices of striving for idealized realism. The influence of modernity and opulence, which Nazis might see as decadent and materialistic. However, the Nazis themselves weren't very consistent on what was considered "good" and "bad" art; there were a lot of contradictions and lots of flip-flopping on particular styles and works (Futura going from a banned typeface to being used on official Nazi publications, for instance).

I think the thing that makes the art feel more Naziish are those really idealized, classical elements (majestic wings, classical hero figures), that just happen to also be Deco-ized.

I'm more discussing this out of armchair interest; I'm not actually condemning the art as irresponsible or anything just because it kinda maybe reminds me of Nazis a little bit. The most offensive thing about the album art is the fact that the fonts are butt-ugly.
Don't see why a discussion of Nazi attitudes towards "degenerate" art styles is relevant here. Nazi artistic styles did ******* many modernist elements, if not all of them. Billy's new art has much in common with a diffuse sense of "art deco," which is an ad hoc term for decorative arts that were popular in the 1920s and 1930s in many places across the world. One of the common things that you would find in decorations is streamlined and angular bodies and objects, including wings. This wasn't particular to any sort of Nazi interest in classicism. If you look at Italian fascist art during this period you will find even more of a connection between genres like futurist art and classicism - see the Milan train station. Anyways, Billy isn't trying to copy the Nazis. Its just that because of movies many Americans (and Serbians) [who apparently have never visited any art museums or cities] associate this sort of art with Nazis. If you look around Chicago and other American cities, you can find many images of Mercury from this period (symbolizing speed) that also have similar looking wings. But, unless I see Billy using things like swastikas, Roman eagle poles (?) for flags, and wearing SS costumes, I think that he alluding more towards an ill-defined 20s/30s decorative art style than any sort of particular fascist art. Unfortunately, Billy hangs with the white supremacist dog whistle crowd these days because they are the LCD and is a good market for losers to tap.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:44 PM   #92
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He wasnt and still isnt. Many ppl especially in small valleys in the west of austria were forced to join.
You have no idea. I bet you have no idea whete auszria is. You fukn assfuk
curious how you avoided answering my question... I'll try again:
are YOU a nazi?

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 06:48 PM   #93
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Now that I am thinking about, I guess I am arguing that Billy himself might be dog-whistling with this art to appeal to neo-nazis. Is this the Machina mystery?

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 08:10 PM   #94
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I just wish Donald Trump would stop killing Jews in gas chambers by the millions. Oh wait... But he does send mean tweets to people who attack him, so, same thing. I know what you're starting to think, don't worry I'll let 100 muslims move into my house and rape my daughter because the only thing worse than that is if you start thinking I'm a nazi.

In all seriousness while everyone is fake outraged about "nazis" I have started to wonder...It is a little odd that we in the West would be so against giving away our countries to muslims and giving up our culture which has lead to rights for women, gays, and minorities. Because as a man, being muslim sounds pretty damn good if I think about it. For some reason we, obvious nazis, are against the whole idea. But I'm less sure why as time goes on. And I think it is us nazis who have everything to gain when we can have sex slaves, multiple wives (who have no rights at all). Women won't be able to work, and if we halve the work force then damn...wages will instantly double and a single working husband can support an entire family again. Just like the 1950's, with a wife in the kithen, talk about making America great again. I might even get to own an actual black person. I'm already racist since I'm white, give me my damn slave.

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 08:21 PM   #95
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Old 09-02-2018, 09:31 PM   #96
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"Hey, it does kinda look Naziish, eh? Not that I'm saying it's actually Nazi art, lol just kinda reminds me."

"EVERYTHING IS NAZI TO YOU GUYS, GAWD, YOU JUST SEE RACISM EVERYWHERE also can we please stop Muslims from coming here just saying"

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 11:13 PM   #97
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i think he's trolling.

he's got to be trolling, right?






























































(is that you, fuzzrod?)

 
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Old 09-02-2018, 11:49 PM   #98
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I'm pretty sure brothahi4L is an actual nazi. like the kind we saw marching in Charlottesville. he literally the descendant of a nazi who fought to protect auszria.

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 12:57 AM   #99
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it's not his fault. not like hitler was his countryman or anything like that.

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:46 AM   #100
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i think you guys gut your genocides mixed up. this is clearly isnpired by socialist realism and not ubermensch. its not the first time billy is on a stalinist kick (rapsutin was on a 33 single).

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 03:52 AM   #101
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i think you guys gut your genocides mixed up. this is clearly isnpired by socialist realism and not ubermensch. its not the first time billy is on a stalinist kick (rapsutin was on a 33 single).
Rapsutin? Is he a rapper?

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 06:49 AM   #102
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Rap Suitin'.


 
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Old 09-03-2018, 07:33 AM   #103
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Old 09-03-2018, 09:11 AM   #104
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I asked him that the other day but he didn't answer it.

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 09:22 AM   #105
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I just wish Donald Trump would stop killing Jews in gas chambers by the millions. Oh wait... But he does send mean tweets to people who attack him, so, same thing. I know what you're starting to think, don't worry I'll let 100 muslims move into my house and rape my daughter because the only thing worse than that is if you start thinking I'm a nazi.

In all seriousness while everyone is fake outraged about "nazis" I have started to wonder...It is a little odd that we in the West would be so against giving away our countries to muslims and giving up our culture which has lead to rights for women, gays, and minorities. Because as a man, being muslim sounds pretty damn good if I think about it. For some reason we, obvious nazis, are against the whole idea. But I'm less sure why as time goes on. And I think it is us nazis who have everything to gain when we can have sex slaves, multiple wives (who have no rights at all). Women won't be able to work, and if we halve the work force then damn...wages will instantly double and a single working husband can support an entire family again. Just like the 1950's, with a wife in the kithen, talk about making America great again. I might even get to own an actual black person. I'm already racist since I'm white, give me my damn slave.
Trump sucks. Get over it.

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:14 AM   #106
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I asked him that the other day but he didn't answer it.
We are buddies now, he always replies me

 
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We are buddies now, he always replies me
I've had three of about ten questions answered. 33% answer rate.

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:22 AM   #108
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Old 09-03-2018, 10:24 AM   #109
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actually that's a 30% answer rate

you have failed, "eviltimeban".

 
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actually that's a 30% answer rate

you have failed, "eviltimeban".
Oh yes. I am ashamed. Ashamed here, in my heart.

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:03 PM   #111
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I just wish Donald Trump would stop killing Jews in gas chambers by the millions. Oh wait... But he does send mean tweets to people who attack him, so, same thing. I know what you're starting to think, don't worry I'll let 100 muslims move into my house and rape my daughter because the only thing worse than that is if you start thinking I'm a nazi.

In all seriousness while everyone is fake outraged about "nazis" I have started to wonder...It is a little odd that we in the West would be so against giving away our countries to muslims and giving up our culture which has lead to rights for women, gays, and minorities. Because as a man, being muslim sounds pretty damn good if I think about it. For some reason we, obvious nazis, are against the whole idea. But I'm less sure why as time goes on. And I think it is us nazis who have everything to gain when we can have sex slaves, multiple wives (who have no rights at all). Women won't be able to work, and if we halve the work force then damn...wages will instantly double and a single working husband can support an entire family again. Just like the 1950's, with a wife in the kithen, talk about making America great again. I might even get to own an actual black person. I'm already racist since I'm white, give me my damn slave.
Trump has done a lot worse than “send mean tweets.” Nearly 3,000 Puerto Ricans are dead, largely due to his pathetic response to the hurricane. His “zero tolerance” family separation policy resulted in 3,000 children separated from their parents and it took a court order for the administration to begin reuniting people. He tried to ban transgender people from serving in the military. If his second SCOTUS pick is confirmed, that will be all the ammunition Gorsucks and the other right-wing judges need to overturn Roe v. Wade and marriage equality. Overturning legal access to abortions will absolutely result in women dying; our country’s limited access to abortion in many right-leaning states already results in death and serious health issues for low-income women who have to travel hundreds of miles to the nearest clinic. Oh, and that new Supreme Court pick also believes that sitting presidents shouldn’t be investigated unless they are Democrats getting blow jobs, so if Mueller is able to find concrete evidence that Trump conspired with the Russian government to interfere with the election, he’ll get off scot-free.

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:07 PM   #112
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Dude. I am NOT a nazi. Trottl!!! - but the art reminds me ( and i am not the only one) of nazi art- no matter if this art has started in the 20s or 30s.


But i am a noob here: can anyone tell me how you can read all the q&a in this short period? Is it possible to skip back ? Thx guys?

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:10 PM   #113
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For the viewers at home, could you please point out whete is auszria?

it's a shitty backwater that used to be part of the Bosnian Serb Empire

 
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Trump has done a lot worse than “send mean tweets.” Nearly 3,000 Puerto Ricans are dead, largely due to his pathetic response to the hurricane. His “zero tolerance” family separation policy resulted in 3,000 children separated from their parents and it took a court order for the administration to begin reuniting people. He tried to ban transgender people from serving in the military. If his second SCOTUS pick is confirmed, that will be all the ammunition Gorsucks and the other right-wing judges need to overturn Roe v. Wade and marriage equality. Overturning legal access to abortions will absolutely result in women dying; our country’s limited access to abortion in many right-leaning states already results in death and serious health issues for low-income women who have to travel hundreds of miles to the nearest clinic. Oh, and that new Supreme Court pick also believes that sitting presidents shouldn’t be investigated unless they are Democrats getting blow jobs, so if Mueller is able to find concrete evidence that Trump conspired with the Russian government to interfere with the election, he’ll get off scot-free.
he also just cut aid to palestinian refugees.

 
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he also just cut aid to palestinian refugees.
Yeah. He’s done so many horribly shitty things in the past year and a half that it would take hours to list all of it.

 
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ok, enough political discussion yeah? I will start deleting posts that further go into that subject before all hell breaks loose.

More than it has already, I mean

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:27 PM   #117
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Understood.

Back on topic... has Billy indicated whether this one is a heavy rock tune, an acoustic ballad, or something else?

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:56 PM   #118
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I think that he said it would be "cool."

 
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Old 09-03-2018, 01:58 PM   #119
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Understood.

Back on topic... has Billy indicated whether this one is a heavy rock tune, an acoustic ballad, or something else?

cool song

 
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