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Old 04-17-2012, 12:11 PM   #61
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This thread is for recommendations, right? Seems to have gotten off track already

The reissues seem to be doing a nice job of offering outtakes, demos and unreleased songs. So, I hope the Lucky 13 releases will bring out some official soundboard recordings. The Smashing Pumpkins live shows have been bootlegged, traded and downloaded for over 20 years. When I think about SP and what it means to be a fan, I immediately think about the live performances and the effort over the years to collect all of my favorite shows. I still have shoe boxes full of maxell II 90 minute tapes from 1995/96. I would love to see the band finally offer some *definitive* live recordings of the shows we have all collected and loved that highlight this band's career. Off the top of my head:

Viper Room '98 Billy solo acoustic show
Early '96 club shows (acoustic and electric sets)
Double Door shows from '95
Arising! shows from '99
8/27/94 second stage set from the Shoreline Ampitheatre
The full Halloween '98 show (Money & XYU releases were awesome!)
Bride School Benefit shows from '97
Texas Motor Speedway show form 11/1/97
Any of the summer festival '97 shows (including Glimpses)
The surprise acoustic show from Berlin in 2007 (Gossamer?!)
June/July '96 MCIS shows (maybe 7/9 and 7/10 last Jimmy shows)
Early '97 shows (i.e. 2/5/97 last and longest MCIS tour performance)
Any soundcheck recordings with rare or unreleased songs
11/29/00 United Center (sorry but the FM we have kinda sucks and this show is a top 5 in terms of performance)

It would be cool if Billy selected some of his favorite shows or tapes and offered a brief background on why he wants to release this performance.

FWIW, I'd pay $1 a song for a lossless download of ANY of that stuff listed above.
total agreement, esp. about the 8/27/94 second stage show with all rarities/gish songs. any show with a weird setlist

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:21 PM   #62
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Monte's interview is worth a listen.

He says they would be interested in releasing samples, and even the full SP and EMI archive lists, including pro-shot shows, and then the fans could vote on what they wanted released and in what format.

Says 65 unreleased Zwan songs.

Says he doesn't expect critics will like Oceania but he believes SP fans will.

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:27 PM   #63
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sounds promising. the archive stuff i mean.

when does the album come out again? june? i dont even remember anymore

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:31 PM   #64
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sounds promising. the archive stuff i mean.

when does the album come out again? june? i dont even remember anymore
June 19th

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:34 PM   #65
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Says he doesn't expect critics will like Oceania but he believes SP fans will.
well that's just sad. it's like saying 'the album is shit, but fans will eat up anything so whatevs'

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:39 PM   #66
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backtracking on his hype already huh

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:00 PM   #67
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backtracking on his hype already huh
No, it was more like he was saying "they dont understand me and I don't expect them to understand this album, as I'm on the outside right now. "He said SP fans will see that they have made a quality product and there's been a progression in quality from Zeitgeist/TBK to Oceania.

Wants to make the album available for anyone to hear about a week before the release; really believes in it as an entire album and hopes people will listen to the full 60:09 before deciding.

Also said he hasn't written anything new since the Oceania sessions and has been working on his book.

Also mentioned they're using Roger whatshisname who worked with Pink Floyd on The Wall and said they're working on a great live show.

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:08 PM   #68
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Also mentioned they're using Roger whatshisname who worked with Pink Floyd on The Wall and said they're working on a great live show.
Are they gonna have any holograms?

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Old 04-17-2012, 04:15 PM   #69
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Melvoin/D'arcy/James/Jimmy holograms for Billy solo MCIS album performance

 
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Old 04-17-2012, 04:55 PM   #70
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I would pay a lot for that

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:30 PM   #71
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OHH!!!!!!!!!!!! The 8/23/95 SFX Centre, Dublin show. fucking amazing, the first official MCIS show, the ENTIRE CROWD LOUDLY SINGS all the SD/Gish songs. Listen to Today on this shit bootleg. the ending makes me cry http://ia600701.us.archive.org/14/it...5-08-23t03.mp3

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:41 PM   #72
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This is what like the 5th time Bolly has announced he is going to open up the archives over the last decade.

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 05:53 PM   #73
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OHH!!!!!!!!!!!! The 8/23/95 SFX Centre, Dublin show. fucking amazing, the first official MCIS show
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The Smashing Pumpkins discuss Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, the media's response to it and internal band relationships. There is also live footage from a concert in Dublin in 1995.
By the way...check out the reaction of James, Jimmy & D'Arcy to Billy's question 'I don't know if that makes any sense...?' ...
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:03 PM   #74
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Billy also predicted the end of the band here >>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kZ8dqJufLA#t=6m45s

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:15 PM   #75
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the end of that interview is hilarious

worth the watch

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:24 PM   #76
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:44 PM   #77
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final metro show
double door shows
cat's cradle show in 2000
chicago songs
adore w/ jimmy
things we've never heard of that are high quality

oh yeah, bridge school 97 too, good call whoever said that

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Old 04-18-2012, 06:45 PM   #78
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the problem with a james/d'arcy sex tape would be not knowing who to jerkoff to

 
Old 04-18-2012, 07:35 PM   #79
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Billy also predicted the end of the band here >>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kZ8dqJufLA#t=6m45s
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Old 04-18-2012, 07:45 PM   #80
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have to give d'arcy credit for correctly recognizing the antichrist was in the room, too

 
Old 04-18-2012, 08:31 PM   #81
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Old 04-18-2012, 10:19 PM   #82
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A question to The Lucky 13 Team: At this stage, can you tell us what recordings are likely to be released?

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:18 PM   #83
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When was the Audio Vanguard Association secret show?? I remember that being a good one.

 
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:35 PM   #84
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The only thing about allowing the fans to vote is the average listener might not understand the importance of a recording in the scheme of the bands history. Have u read any of the polls in FB in months past "what's your favorite song?" and it's allllllll theeeee singles. Which is fine but if all the people who consider BWBW their favorite song all get to vote we are going to wind up with... I don't know. But it won't be what everyone was hoping for. I hope the voting is more private thru sprc mailing lists or something that isn't just the open wild west.

Also x2 on cjs42079's list. Adding...
Come back home
Lost in the woods
2/17/97 - 2 songs
I really want to hear a studio recording of "speed" with vocals!!!!!!!!!

 
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Old 04-19-2012, 02:58 AM   #85
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adore w/ jimmy
Did that actually happen?

 
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:07 AM   #86
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Did that actually happen?
probably not. i think the best we've heard is they rehearsed some songs in the studio w/ jimmy playing drums. my memory is hazy.

 
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:17 AM   #87
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Good luck with the Lucky 13 project >>>

[from a new interview]

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But I think that where I'm at now is I just do what I wanna do and I don't get real deep on what other people are gonna think about it, because in the internet world - the Twitter world, the Facebook world - for every guy who likes it, there's a girl who doesn’t like it. You just can't pay attention to that anymore. I don't think anybody really even knows what they like anymore. People just give opinions because they feel they have to, or to get some attention. I'm not saying that when somebody has a negative opinion that they're not entitled to it - a lot of times when I read negative opinions from fans I actually think, yeah that kind of makes sense, because nothing is perfect and certainly I'm not. But I don't think you can let the audience dictate. It's death in art to let the audience dictate what you're going to do.
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:23 AM   #88
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When was the Audio Vanguard Association secret show?? I remember that being a good one.
june '97.
i think the 23rd.

 
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Old 04-19-2012, 03:25 AM   #89
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That indeed is pretty.

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OHH!!!!!!!!!!!! The 8/23/95 SFX Centre, Dublin show. fucking amazing, the first official MCIS show, the ENTIRE CROWD LOUDLY SINGS all the SD/Gish songs. Listen to Today on this shit bootleg. the ending makes me cry http://ia600701.us.archive.org/14/it...5-08-23t03.mp3

 
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• whatever you're going to release >>> make it available as FLAC files

 
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