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04-26-2012, 01:54 AM | #1 |
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If you're not Native, then don't go to coachella looking like this
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http://i46.tinypic.com/1ovmty.jpg http://nativeappropriations.blogspot...headdress.html Last edited by Starla : 05-04-2012 at 11:27 PM. |
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04-26-2012, 02:05 AM | #2 |
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04-26-2012, 02:08 AM | #3 |
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Starla, were you in KC long enough to hear the "Indian chant" popular w Chiefs football fans? I demonstrated it for a friend from Chicago and she was pretty taken back by it.
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04-26-2012, 07:25 AM | #4 | |
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These things don't really bother me as much as it does to see someone running around stoned or drunk looking like an idiot in a headdress. I don't even really get offended when I see white girls wearing moccasins or anything that's Native inspired, but once it starts infringing on sacred things that's different. |
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04-26-2012, 03:19 AM | #5 |
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Lol! Was just laughing at that in robin hood men in tights.
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04-26-2012, 03:26 AM | #6 |
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its part of the culture of forgiveness and acceptance. nobody alive today killed those native americans. peace out
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04-26-2012, 07:42 AM | #7 | |
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The headdress is a symbol of spirituality for a chief in a tribe or medicine person. They didn't go to the craft store, get a piece of cheap material and hot glue a bunch of feathers to it. They earned those feathers over a life time for various spiritual reasons. I don't even know why I should have to explain this. |
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04-26-2012, 07:52 AM | #8 | |
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same thing, really. yet the headdress offends you, but the chant doesn't. i think you have issues. |
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04-28-2012, 03:37 AM | #9 | ||
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Okay, I just read this whole thread again and I will admit that this:
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Also I don't know why you don't know why you should have to explain it. It's not exactly common knowledge. I didn't know that. Why should I? I'll get around to responding to your last post later. |
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04-26-2012, 07:32 AM | #10 |
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why is it ok for stoned and drunk people to do a chant for an american football team though? i guess i'm not seeing the difference really.
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04-26-2012, 07:44 AM | #11 | |
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We don't "chant" we sing songs, and they all are different and have different meanings. A bunch of drunks sitting around saying "ohh woahhh.... " and beating a drum is just that. But if they were to start singing sacred song...... then that is entirely something else. Last edited by Starla : 05-04-2012 at 11:28 PM. |
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04-26-2012, 07:46 AM | #12 | |
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04-26-2012, 08:31 AM | #13 |
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It's not the same thing. Whatever they are chanting at the game and beating a drum is not Native. People who don't know better think it's a Native song. I guess that's why I laugh about it. If you are making a headdress that looks Native, then that is what you are doing.
Basically, I've never attended in a ceremony in my life that sounds like what they are doing at a Chiefs game. |
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04-26-2012, 08:42 AM | #14 |
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Maybe you should just go dressed up as a slutty nun with a short habit and knee high boots or something, and call it even.
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04-26-2012, 09:26 AM | #15 | |
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04-26-2012, 09:56 AM | #16 | |
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04-26-2012, 01:17 PM | #17 | |
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04-26-2012, 10:03 AM | #18 |
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really?
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04-26-2012, 12:05 PM | #19 |
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04-26-2012, 11:47 AM | #20 |
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@ starla, are you saying this is racist?
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04-26-2012, 11:49 AM | #21 |
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because perhaps you're the racist if you think cultural symbols belong entirely to YOU and YOUR "people" (as if there was a native american people...)
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04-26-2012, 08:38 PM | #22 |
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Depends on what symbols they are. If they are symbols of my clan, then yeah they do belong to us and same goes for other tribes. ie an Apache wouldn't wear the symbols of another clan. Most symbols have certain spiritual meanings to them, so it's wrong for non natives or other clans to take them and bastardize them.
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04-26-2012, 11:19 PM | #23 |
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04-27-2012, 10:53 AM | #24 | |
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04-26-2012, 02:24 PM | #25 |
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no way i got HPV just from looking at those chicks
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04-26-2012, 02:36 PM | #26 |
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Starla can be offended by whatever she wants. I don't think at any point she said that other people shouldn't be offended by the Chiefs' chants, or whatever.
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04-26-2012, 02:38 PM | #27 |
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ahhhh hahahahahahaha
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04-26-2012, 02:48 PM | #28 |
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jealous my foot.
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04-26-2012, 02:49 PM | #29 |
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i think that blond on the right should stop wearing clothes all together.
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04-26-2012, 08:56 PM | #30 |
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