Does anyone care that Billy went back on his word and went the oldies route? - Page 2

houseofglass11 · 03-01-2018, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

Over the hill rocker rushing together a semi reunion in order to go out and gouge fans with astronomical ticket prices by playing a bunch of old songs to help cover some ill-advised wrasslin' investments.

Fixed.

Try Try Give Up · 09:03 AM

It doesn't bother me that he's changed his mind, I'm glad, but he should have taken the Eagles/GNR route and named the tour after one of his soundbites. Eagles had Hell Freezes Over, GNR had Not In This Lifetime, Billy could have had the Dead As An Artist or One More Round At The Till tour.

LaBelle · 03-02-2018, 08:07 AM

We Understand Your Enthusiasm Tour

Cool As Ice Cream · 03-02-2018, 08:35 AM

don't be such a fucking crybaby, fuzzy.
nobody's making you go see them on this tour.
and if you can't afford it, just accept it. you don't need to come up with a three page explanation why you might not want to see them as much as you do.
or why don't you simply do some more number crunching on the vegas lines? money in the bank, fellas. clowns in my shower, chicken in my heart!

kremlin18 · 03-02-2018, 08:36 AM

I agree totally, but would've been more or less happy with this tour if were a true reunion with D'arcy involved. At least playing the oldies would have made more sense? I don't know. Part of me thinks they priced the tickets with this in mind, at least her having a bit part. The rates would still be wonky but I know I'd pay anyway. As it stands they don't compute.

Also this, Billy responds to getting the band back together at 4:47: https://youtu.be/mWWrFuF0A8k?t=4m47s

Ram27 · 03-02-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LaBelle

We Understand Your Enthusiasm Tour

that'd actually be a killer name

kinda snarky like 'resume the pose'

Candy Cane · 03-02-2018, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kremlin18

I agree totally, but would've been more or less happy with this tour if were a true reunion with D'arcy involved.

D'arcy is Billy's ace card. He's saving her for another tour, after the reunion tour, called the true reunion tour, with seats priced at 50000 dollars.

Cool As Ice Cream · 03-02-2018, 11:16 AM

clever.

amoergosum · 03-02-2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Cane

D'arcy is Billy's ace card. He's saving her for another tour, after the reunion tour, called the true reunion tour, with seats priced at 50000 dollars.

Front row:

panda show · 03-02-2018, 12:08 PM

"bla bla bla GUNS N ROSES bla bla bla AXL ROSE"
- fuzzyroes

themadcaplaughs · 03-02-2018, 12:33 PM

Billy needs to do one of two things, preferably both but I'm being realistic, to eek his way back into the mainstream.

1. Record new music that can stand alongside the 1988-2000 run. At this point, no one expects him to write and record music as special as Siamese Dream, but the band needs an entire LP or EP of songs that can at least sit next to the old songs without being a complete embarrassment. Between Zeitgeist, Teargarden by Kaleidyscope, Oceania, and Monuments to an Elegy, we might have five to seven songs that sound like a continuation of the band's original run. Five to seven songs...in ten years. At this point, I think the reaction to Monuments even got Billy to acknowledge his output was not worthy of the band name. Perhaps having Iha back in the fold will result in songs with a better Smashing Pumpkins vibe, but given Corgan's track record since 2007, we should assume the new songs will be more of the same. If the new songs knock it out of the park, well then that constitutes a pleasant surprise.

2. Play the oldies and nothing else.

RAWK · 03-02-2018, 12:52 PM

I'm not so upset that he went back on what he said. I'm more upset about WHY. I bought tickets but I can't help the feeling that I'm just paying to revive a dead wrestling league.

Fonzie · 03-02-2018, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RAWK

I'm not so upset that he went back on what he said. I'm more upset about WHY. I bought tickets but I can't help the feeling that I'm just paying to revive a dead wrestling league.

Sad but hilarious.

wpc33 · 03:59 PM

I asked myself what D'arcy would sound like live, and listened to 3 Arising shows. I didn't like what I heard.
The Geek USA breakdown is like a "shreds" video

In 1999, did the deveel take back her ability to play better than my grandma?

"I mean, the cat just couldn't groove. And when two cats can't groove to the same tune..." -Sammy Davis Jr?

Shadaloo · 03-02-2018, 03:19 PM

If he plays new music he's playing shit nobody cares about, etc.

If he plays old music he's a hypocrite etc.

Don't care. I'm fine with it. Rather see him playing the stuff from the good days.

Ram27 · 03-02-2018, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wpc33

I asked myself what D'arcy would sound like live, and listened to 3 Arising shows. I didn't like what I heard.
The Geek USA breakdown is like a "shreds" video

In 1999, did the deveel take back her ability to play better than my grandma?

"I mean, the cat just couldn't groove. And when two cats can't groove to the same tune..." -Sammy Davis Jr?

Woah, never heard that. What the fuck happened there?

themadcaplaughs · 03-02-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram27

Woah, never heard that. What the fuck happened there?

If you listen to the rest of the show, you can hear her complain about having issues hearing her bass and getting excessive feedback...

kremlin18 · 03-02-2018, 04:12 PM

Maybe she was f*cked up that night?

kremlin18 · 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by themadcaplaughs

Billy needs to do one of two things, preferably both but I'm being realistic, to eek his way back into the mainstream.

1. Record new music that can stand alongside the 1988-2000 run. At this point, no one expects him to write and record music as special as Siamese Dream, but the band needs an entire LP or EP of songs that can at least sit next to the old songs without being a complete embarrassment. Between Zeitgeist, Teargarden by Kaleidyscope, Oceania, and Monuments to an Elegy, we might have five to seven songs that sound like a continuation of the band's original run. Five to seven songs...in ten years. At this point, I think the reaction to Monuments even got Billy to acknowledge his output was not worthy of the band name. Perhaps having Iha back in the fold will result in songs with a better Smashing Pumpkins vibe, but given Corgan's track record since 2007, we should assume the new songs will be more of the same. If the new songs knock it out of the park, well then that constitutes a pleasant surprise.

2. Play the oldies and nothing else.

Lol, the funny thing is #1 wouldn't seem that hard for someone as talented as Billy but he's built up such bad will it doesn't seem possible. I can think of other guys who have pulled it together - NIN's last EP, David Bowie's last album obviously. The music just needs to be simpler in a way and guitar driven. And he needs to stop making his voice the focus. Billy's strength is his songwriting and was at one point his guitar sound. That's why I thought Ogilala was pretty lifeless, not what most people want to hear from him.

houseofglass11 · 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

don't be such a fucking crybaby, fuzzy.
nobody's making you go see them on this tour.
and if you can't afford it, just accept it. you don't need to come up with a three page explanation why you might not want to see them as much as you do.
or why don't you simply do some more number crunching on the vegas lines? money in the bank, fellas. clowns in my shower, chicken in my heart!

Funny to see you defend your position so vehemently after spending $1300 on fuckin concert tickets. Lol

MplsTaper · 03-02-2018, 04:34 PM

myosis · 03-02-2018, 05:41 PM

except he didn't actually spend 1300$

houseofglass11 · 03-02-2018, 06:37 PM

who are you, his accountant?

myosis · 03-02-2018, 06:41 PM

i'm his mother

lemonscure · 03-02-2018, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by myosis

i'm his mother

I will follow you and see you on the other side

FoolofaTook · 03-02-2018, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by myosis

i'm his mother

Rider · 03-02-2018, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Try Try Give Up

It doesn't bother me that he's changed his mind, I'm glad, but he should have taken the Eagles/GNR route and named the tour after one of his soundbites. Eagles had Hell Freezes Over, GNR had Not In This Lifetime, Billy could have had the Dead As An Artist or One More Round At The Till tour.

The riding in the van tour 2018.

jakobtheliar · 03-03-2018, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by wpc33

I asked myself what D'arcy would sound like live, and listened to 3 Arising shows. I didn't like what I heard.
The Geek USA breakdown is like a "shreds" video

In 1999, did the deveel take back her ability to play better than my grandma?

"I mean, the cat just couldn't groove. And when two cats can't groove to the same tune..." -Sammy Davis Jr?

Almost like you're being put up to this or trolling for whatever... But fuck off

Elphenor · 03-03-2018, 03:16 AM

that show has the gnarliest Wound fuck yeah

wpc33 · 03-03-2018, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jakobtheliar

Almost like you're being put up to this or trolling for whatever... But fuck off

Couldn't be more wrong, you fucking clown in my shower
I'm as surprised as you, but I can accept it

03-02-2018, 07:25 AM	#32
Try Try Give Up Oblivious Virgin Posts: 48	It doesn't bother me that he's changed his mind, I'm glad, but he should have taken the Eagles/GNR route and named the tour after one of his soundbites. Eagles had Hell Freezes Over, GNR had Not In This Lifetime, Billy could have had the Dead As An Artist or One More Round At The Till tour. Last edited by Try Try Give Up : 03-02-2018 at 09:03 AM.

03-02-2018, 02:49 PM	#44
wpc33 Apocalyptic Poster Location: Cheating on my wife with Kurt Cobain's wife. He'll live. Posts: 2,174	I asked myself what D'arcy would sound like live, and listened to 3 Arising shows. I didn't like what I heard. The Geek USA breakdown is like a "shreds" video In 1999, did the deveel take back her ability to play better than my grandma? "I mean, the cat just couldn't groove. And when two cats can't groove to the same tune..." -Sammy Davis Jr? Last edited by wpc33 : 03-02-2018 at 03:59 PM.

03-02-2018, 04:34 PM	#51
MplsTaper Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,997	lol

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03-02-2018, 08:07 AM	#33
LaBelle Socialphobic Location: Away Posts: 11,398	We Understand Your Enthusiasm Tour

03-02-2018, 08:35 AM	#34
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	don't be such a fucking crybaby, fuzzy. nobody's making you go see them on this tour. and if you can't afford it, just accept it. you don't need to come up with a three page explanation why you might not want to see them as much as you do. or why don't you simply do some more number crunching on the vegas lines? money in the bank, fellas. clowns in my shower, chicken in my heart!

03-02-2018, 08:36 AM	#35
kremlin18 Oblivious Virgin Posts: 27	I agree totally, but would've been more or less happy with this tour if were a true reunion with D'arcy involved. At least playing the oldies would have made more sense? I don't know. Part of me thinks they priced the tickets with this in mind, at least her having a bit part. The rates would still be wonky but I know I'd pay anyway. As it stands they don't compute. Also this, Billy responds to getting the band back together at 4:47: https://youtu.be/mWWrFuF0A8k?t=4m47s

03-02-2018, 11:16 AM	#38
Cool As Ice Cream Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: František! How's the foot of your turtle? Posts: 32,743	clever.

03-02-2018, 12:08 PM	#40
panda show Ownz Location: trees and balloons Posts: 562	"bla bla bla GUNS N ROSES bla bla bla AXL ROSE" - fuzzyroes

03-02-2018, 12:33 PM	#41
themadcaplaughs Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,625	Billy needs to do one of two things, preferably both but I'm being realistic, to eek his way back into the mainstream. 1. Record new music that can stand alongside the 1988-2000 run. At this point, no one expects him to write and record music as special as Siamese Dream, but the band needs an entire LP or EP of songs that can at least sit next to the old songs without being a complete embarrassment. Between Zeitgeist, Teargarden by Kaleidyscope, Oceania, and Monuments to an Elegy, we might have five to seven songs that sound like a continuation of the band's original run. Five to seven songs...in ten years. At this point, I think the reaction to Monuments even got Billy to acknowledge his output was not worthy of the band name. Perhaps having Iha back in the fold will result in songs with a better Smashing Pumpkins vibe, but given Corgan's track record since 2007, we should assume the new songs will be more of the same. If the new songs knock it out of the park, well then that constitutes a pleasant surprise. 2. Play the oldies and nothing else.

03-02-2018, 12:52 PM	#42
RAWK Pledge Location: Hell A Posts: 218	I'm not so upset that he went back on what he said. I'm more upset about WHY. I bought tickets but I can't help the feeling that I'm just paying to revive a dead wrestling league.

03-02-2018, 03:19 PM	#45
Shadaloo Apocalyptic Poster Location: up on the cross you go little fella Posts: 2,676	If he plays new music he's playing shit nobody cares about, etc. If he plays old music he's a hypocrite etc. Don't care. I'm fine with it. Rather see him playing the stuff from the good days.

03-02-2018, 04:12 PM	#48
kremlin18 Oblivious Virgin Posts: 27	Maybe she was f*cked up that night?

03-02-2018, 05:41 PM	#52
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,421	except he didn't actually spend 1300$

03-02-2018, 06:37 PM	#53
houseofglass11 Minion of Satan Location: sleuthing around like a worm Posts: 5,679	who are you, his accountant?

03-02-2018, 06:41 PM	#54
myosis Minion of Satan Location: the institute Posts: 6,421	i'm his mother

03-03-2018, 03:16 AM	#59
Elphenor Braindead Location: TX Posts: 16,289	that show has the gnarliest Wound fuck yeah