Countdown to Billy retiring the smashing pumpkins

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by LaBelle

That's real punk rock

it kind of really is.... but she could never play bill's guitar parts

[MyOneAndOnly]

ergo, bill is not at all in any way punk rock

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by Squish Squash

Billy (with his old voice at least) is my favorite singer of all time tbh.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

[Joey Goldberg]

i know, right?

can't believe he didn't say D'arcy

[krackhead]

Yeah, but then B0lly will have the Zwan reunion with James on guitar and Jimmy on drums and Jeff on guitar.

[TheAlter]

There’s no trace of CYR on Bølly’s Instagram at the moment. Maybe it’s the new Shiny LP: No stories. No pictures. No guitars.

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

There’s no trace of CYR on Bølly’s Instagram at the moment. Maybe it’s the new Shiny LP: No stories. No pictures. No guitars.

As in he's actively removed all traces of Cyr??

Countdown to removing it from streaming services?

A shame, it's a solid enjoyable record.

[brothahi4L]

Lol yeah solid 2 stars

[VoxUpDoc]

There's a 3, even 4, star record in there.

Cut it to 15 tracks, lower vox mix, better artwork and marketing.

Best in 20 years blah blah saying the same thing in every thread....

[VoxUpDoc]

I've listened to my Cyr mix over 20 times according to iTunes.

Shiny didn't break double figures outside of Meadow Goats.

That's pretty good going.Well done, Bill.

[run2pee]

Cyr is a good record, possibly the best since Machina II. Unfortunately, the vocals aren’t going to be palatable to anyone but those long suffering few who’ve trained their brains to tune out the constant gasp/honk to appreciate the music that is, meanwhile, trying ever so hard to happen

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by Woody

As in he's actively removed all traces of Cyr??

He had uploaded a number of CYR related stuff on IG, but now it's all gone apparently.

Originally Posted by Woody

There's a 3, even 4, star record in there.

Cut it to 15 tracks, lower vox mix, better artwork and marketing.

Best in 20 years blah blah saying the same thing in every thread....

Honestly that can be said for a lot of records. Take the fillers off, do a proper mix et voilà, Pearl Jam.

Originally Posted by Run To Me

Cyr is a good record, possibly the best since Machina II. Unfortunately, the vocals aren’t going to be palatable to anyone but those long suffering few who’ve trained their brains to tune out the constant gasp/honk to appreciate the music that is, meanwhile, trying ever so hard to happen

It takes some really unshakable devotion to enjoy this record, imo. It's long, boring and its idea of a contemporary sound is so old.

[VoxUpDoc]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

Honestly that can be said for a lot of records. Take the fillers off, do a proper mix et voilà, Pearl Jam.

True.... but it can't be said for many SP records post-Machina. Zeitgeist is the only other one really.

[wHATcOLOR]

Originally Posted by TheAlter

There’s no trace of CYR on Bølly’s Instagram at the moment. Maybe it’s the new Shiny LP: No stories. No pictures. No guitars.

Originally Posted by Woody

As in he's actively removed all traces of Cyr??

Countdown to removing it from streaming services?

A shame, it's a solid enjoyable record.

Originally Posted by TheAlter

He had uploaded a number of CYR related stuff on IG, but now it's all gone apparently.

to be fair, it looks like he cleared out all content on his instagram. i don't think like an anti-cyr move specifically..

[Ram27]

SD deep dive when

[TheAlter]

Originally Posted by wHATcOLOR

to be fair, it looks like he cleared out all content on his instagram. i don't think like an anti-cyr move specifically..

He had cleared out his IG around June, then it was mostly about CYR and now it’s an empty party afternoon

[Ram27]

holding back the fool again

[Ram27]

bruh

[MyOneAndOnly]

The music wasn't the big problem, it was more their attitude: `Why do we have to practice? I'd rather be hanging out at the Rainbo.' Lifestyle stuff. And then you get into what I would call cataclysmic behavioral stuff. Sex acts between band members in public. People carrying drugs across borders. Pajo sleeping with the producer's girlfriend while we were making the record. I just tried to do what I've always done, which is to patch it up and roll it out. You go into a denial state. I got snookered in by really bad people. It's embarrassing to me. But it wised me up to why I play, and who I love, and it made me appreciate my old band even more.

I'm not in the Smashing Pumpkins right now, but for me it's an everyday thing, I'm still wrestling with that. Every day I think about, "Where's D'Arcy? Is she OK?" and [exasperated voice] "Frigging James." Jimmy and I still talk twice a week. The bonds are still there. There is also a lot of [domestic] abuse in my past. Hostile, reactive, self-abusive behavior. People from the outside would look at me, and say, "What's his problem? Why's he such a jerk?" I feel if I tell the whole story, most people will understand why I did what I did. A child protects his parents from what they're doing to the child because he thinks he can fix the parents. It applies to families, bands, relationships. It's taken me 30 years to realize that doesn't work. Telling the truth will open me to criticism that I haven't been open to before. But it will release the black ball that has been sitting in my stomach.

All options are open. If D'Arcy called me tomorrow and said, "I love you, I've made some mistakes, I figured some things out," I'd be the first guy on the plane to see her. But who knows? I may do some performance . . . thing.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Billy got snookered!

[TheAlter]

Is this how dried-up nostalgia acts make headlines today? Smh