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05-11-2020, 01:13 PM | #151 |
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when we started loving J Bates
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05-11-2020, 01:14 PM | #152 |
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surprised there isn't a thread about that, too
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05-11-2020, 01:28 PM | #153 |
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I'll be by the pool
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05-11-2020, 01:32 PM | #154 |
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i'd rather be playing pool
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05-12-2020, 04:49 PM | #155 | |
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Let's see, she made a Kickstarter for a new, cartridge-based guitar pedal, only to pocket everyone's money and not even put it toward development or even make a prototype. She sold her company to Dwarfcraft, only to decide she wanted it back and lash out at them for not taking a huge loss by giving her company back to her. Their contract had a non-compete clause until such time that Dwarfcraft would sell down their run of stock and return the license to her (as per their agreement), yet she started up her company and started trying to undercut Dwarfcraft, anyway. She also joined #GamerGate, which harassed other women, gender/sexual minorities, ethnic minorities, and journalists in the video-game industry, only regretting this and becoming anti-GamerGate when they predictably targeted her, too. Combined with often rude interactions with her customers and fans, she kind of imploded under the weight of her own actions and faded into obscurity. She was obviously an unwell person, so I hope she has the help and support she needs right now. It's also worth noting that her actions brought on the consequences of pretty much impoverishing herself, while Corgan has never really suffered much consequence for being a jackass himself. Probably insulated from them by being a rich cis white rockstar. |
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05-12-2020, 05:03 PM | #156 |
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05-12-2020, 05:05 PM | #157 |
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i wasn't insinuating Corgan ended Ever, friend. merely pointing out the coincidence of her seeming disappearance shortly following that whole thing. there was a Devi pedal called Vintage Fuzz something I was looking into that made me realize she was still generally staying under the radar, presumably for the reasons you just stated I guess
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05-12-2020, 05:32 PM | #158 |
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Honestly, people still aren't very accepting of trans folks. I post on a basketball message board, and it often feel like I am one of the only people on the entire board who actually thinks trans people should be treated the same as everyone else. Granted, sports fans aren't necessarily the most progressive group out there, but I'm consistently shocked by the vitriol spewed at trans people on that board. It's pretty scary. I have a close friend who is trans, and a few others who are non binary. I can only imagine what they go through.
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05-12-2020, 07:04 PM | #159 |
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I'm sorry, at this time you do not have enough points to redeem your trans-ally token
I think everyone here knows trans people are treated like dirt. Netphoria is pretty much an SJW enclave now. My point was that at the time, there was absolute silence over the transphobia in that story, but if it happened today I think the internet would wreck Billy Corgan. Even the Devi Ever thing happened just a few years before mainstream liberal culture stopped being blind to transphobia from public people. I think Bill gets spared because these things both happened at a time when people weren't as tuned into celebrities expressing this kind of bigotry, and thus a lot of people just don't know. If he threatened violence on a trans person today, there would be a lot more coverage. |
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05-12-2020, 08:52 PM | #160 |
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i don't think many people would care because it's billy corgan
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05-12-2020, 08:56 PM | #161 |
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Devi has returned to her original building status. She still builds and sells. follow her instagram, she is still at it - but with less folly (for now)
the Ohlala scandal predates all of these issues mentioned above. Devi has always been involved in attention type mini internet scandals. |
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05-12-2020, 09:12 PM | #162 | |
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I know it's not the same, but Ryan Adams is definitely less known than Billy Corgan, and he got a front page story in NYT about his abuse towards women. I definitely do not think it would fly under the radar. |
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05-12-2020, 10:36 PM | #163 | |
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ryan adams is less known than corgan to people under 30 years old, really? |
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05-12-2020, 11:22 PM | #164 |
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05-12-2020, 11:25 PM | #165 |
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Also this is anecdotal but the last time I saw the Pumpkins there were people of all ages. 50 year old original fans, people my age who got into the Pumpkins after they collapsed, younger adults, and little kids with their young parents (not many teens probably cause it's uncool as shit).
When I saw Ryan Adams in 2017 (?) the crowd was decidedly older, and most older than me. |
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05-12-2020, 11:32 PM | #166 |
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I guess it's hard to say how well-known "Billy Corgan" is, when "Billy Corgan" is better known as "the bald guy from Smashing Pumpkins who I think wore a dress or something?"
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05-12-2020, 11:39 PM | #167 |
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i guess i'm more out of touch than i thought
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05-13-2020, 12:15 AM | #168 |
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yeah I think a fair amount of people could at least identify that bald whiny voice guy from smashing pumpkins
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05-13-2020, 12:15 AM | #169 |
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if you say ryan adams to the average music enjoyer they'll be like yeah man summer '69
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05-13-2020, 12:15 AM | #170 |
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those were the best days of our lives
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05-13-2020, 03:21 AM | #171 |
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i only know about ryan adams from getting into phoebe bridgers |
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05-13-2020, 08:52 AM | #172 |
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05-13-2020, 09:31 AM | #173 |
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I still can't listen to him
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05-13-2020, 09:38 AM | #174 |
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You have some sort of issue with the King and Lord of the Mark of Rohan??
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05-13-2020, 09:51 AM | #175 |
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i still don't really know who Ryan Adams is, aside from a guy who made music in the 2000s, dated Mandy Moore or something & often gets confused for Bryan. Did he have any discernible "hits" or whatever? even before I was into the Pumpkins I knew who Corgan was
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05-13-2020, 09:55 AM | #176 |
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you talkin ta me?
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05-13-2020, 09:59 AM | #177 |
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05-13-2020, 11:06 AM | #178 |
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The Devi ever thing wasn’t that long ago and probably would’ve been a bigger deal if people still cared about Billy Corgan and it wasn’t Devi Ever who is somehow a bigger asshole and more out of touch with reality than Billy Corgan.
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05-13-2020, 11:27 AM | #179 |
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ur dad gave me a bigger asshole
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05-13-2020, 11:54 AM | #180 |
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