Did James revive SP because he knew he'd make millions?

[pavementtune]

this tour income being split in equal shares would be the most un-corganesque thing in 30 years of "SP".

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by johncg

I doubt there’s millions. A sideman on a touring gig makes decent money while they’re playing gigs but not that much. The real money is in publishing.....and that’s all Corgan unless they do a co-write that happens to sell..like Taylor Swift numbers.

When KISS did their big reunion in 1996, Ace and Peter netted 1 million each... They were both initially mad that Gene and Paul would be making so much more, but they both needed the money. With this whole reunion revolving around James, it's not unlikely that he's making 1-2 million for this tour, with a lot more to come with the foreign dates.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by epinson

The main reason I am guessing that Jeff gets some sort of split (although probably much smaller) is that he takes part in the photoshoots and his name is listed in the ads and posters, while Jack's isn't

You're reading too much into a sign of goodwill from Billy.

No chance is Jeff netting anything close to the funds of Jimmy or James.

[incubator]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

When KISS did their big reunion in 1996, Ace and Peter netted 1 million each... They were both initially mad that Gene and Paul would be making so much more, but they both needed the money. With this whole reunion revolving around James, it's not unlikely that he's making 1-2 million for this tour, with a lot more to come with the foreign dates.

You’re insane.

[T&T]

when billy said "25/25/25/25 split", he probably meant "25/25/25/25 split of 10% net profits between jimmy, jeff, james and d'arcy". he wasn't even talking about his 90% LOL.

Billy's had the keyman clause since the beginning. that's the vieuphoria 'taking them to the circus' thing. that's why when d'arcy took a break in 1999 billy went on and hired someone to replace her without her consent because he didn't need it.

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[Ram27]

btw, why did Billy always complain that he was ugly (esp in comparison to James/D'arcy). He looks cherubic/cute there

[FoolofaTook]

acid

[PuzzledMuzzle]

Originally Posted by Ram27

btw, why did Billy always complain that he was ugly (esp in comparison to James/D'arcy). He looks cherubic/cute there

Probably started saying that shit around 95-98 when he was balding/bald. He wrote Ugly in late 94, first band version from 95.

[FoolofaTook]

fuck you, puzzlemuzzle

[PuzzledMuzzle]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

fuck you, puzzlemuzzle

Lol, am I wrong?

[FoolofaTook]

about what?

[PuzzledMuzzle]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

about what?

Him probably telling them they were beautiful around the same time as he was balding and wrote "Ugly".

[FoolofaTook]

who?

[PuzzledMuzzle]

Originally Posted by FoolofaTook

who?

Your uncle, Hermann Göring.

[PuzzledMuzzle]

Great bloke, ran the Luftwaffe for a while.

[FoolofaTook]

that's pretty mean of you, brother.

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by incubator

You’re insane.

I know

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by PuzzledMuzzle

Probably started saying that shit around 95-98 when he was balding/bald. He wrote Ugly in late 94, first band version from 95.

It was famously mentioned in SPIN magazine that he whined about it to Kim Thayil in 1994

[T&T]

they always put billy in the back of photos because he's the ugly one.

lol.

[Corgan's Bluff]

They put Billy in the back because he is THE GREATEST asshole

[teh b0lly!!1]

this band is fucking clown shoes

[johncg]

Originally Posted by epinson

The main reason I am guessing that Jeff gets some sort of split (although probably much smaller) is that he takes part in the photoshoots and his name is listed in the ads and posters, while Jack's isn't, although that could just be some arrangement to make some people think he's an original member. Cue the "Kenny Aronoff in the Perfect Video" debates.

It's all speculation though, he definitely seemed more of a hired gun in the Zeitgeist days.

Did you not read anything in this entire thread? They’re all hired guns. Billy owns the band.

[Corgan's Bluff]

D'arcy:

"[i]was never even offered the option of rehab.
Just booted before 1/2 of my allotted time-off to get well was over.
Billy already had Mellissa
lined up."


"There is no new Billy.

He's just become a
quiet, liar (instead of a screaming one) and manipulates people more politely."


"People said that Billy had changed. He has.
He's a liar now as well as an incredibly hateful, abusive person.
Wish i hadn't had to find out the hard way but I must say I definitely dodged a bullet.
I never would've survived working with Billy again. (but then again? I would've just left.
Like i did before.
I thought that since James was dealing w/Billy again that That meant that Billy was worth dealing with.
Apparently James has changed for the worse too.
I was suspicious when James started working with Billy again without telling me first tho.
Damn shame tho!
All of it. We used to have something really special, but those guys just don't give a shit about anything but money.
... damn shame."

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by Corgan's Bluff

I was suspicious when James started working with Billy again without telling me first tho.
Damn shame tho!
All of it. We used to have something really special, but those guys just don't give a shit about anything but money.
... damn shame."

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[panda show]

Originally Posted by Ram27

btw, why did Billy always complain that he was ugly (esp in comparison to James/D'arcy). He looks cherubic/cute there

this:

Originally Posted by PuzzledMuzzle

Probably started saying that shit around 95-98 when he was balding/bald. He wrote Ugly in late 94, first band version from 95.

and also considering his mental and emotional (in)stability, it wouldn't surprise me if he had some form of body dismorphic disorder.

[Funbags]

Originally Posted by fuzzyroes

When KISS did their big reunion in 1996, Ace and Peter netted 1 million each... They were both initially mad that Gene and Paul would be making so much more, but they both needed the money. With this whole reunion revolving around James, it's not unlikely that he's making 1-2 million for this tour, with a lot more to come with the foreign dates.

Strangely enough, I’ve been listening to various Kiss videos where Paul Stanley talks about this stuff. It’s crazy. Things like Tommy Thayer flying from a family vacation in Hawaii and getting suited up for a show, only to have Ace waltz through the door at the last minute and play.