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View Poll Results: Favorite SP member?
Jimmy Chamberlin 12 35.29%
Billy Corgan 6 17.65%
James Iha 9 26.47%
DArcy Wretzky 7 20.59%
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Old 03-18-2020, 04:19 PM   #61
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speaking of Jeff where the hell is he on this pole? have any of these others jokers been with Billy since day 1 like Jeffrey?

the answer is no, they haven't

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 04:21 PM   #62
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Hes also the only one who wrote Blinking with Fists.
This is not to be taken into consideration, because it wasn't done in the Classic Era.

My opinion changes post 2000

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 04:24 PM   #63
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“Jeff” doesn’t actually exist. It’s just D’Arcy in drag.

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 04:28 PM   #64
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Not if he's Iommi.

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:33 PM   #65
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brothahi4L, ilikeplanets, reprise85, vitaldust

only honest people on this whole board

you all love/hate billy and you know it. thin line etc. only other member i considered was jimmy because like, he's a pretty good drummer and stuff

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:40 PM   #66
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Excuse you sir, Billy is the one who ruined my favorite band of all time, so no he is not my favorite band member. He is my favorite singer and songwriter but I cannot stand him as a person. Team D’Arcy all day.


Cute cat btw

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:47 PM   #67
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Excuse you sir, Billy is the one who ruined my favorite band of all time, so no he is not my favorite band member. He is my favorite singer and songwriter but I cannot stand him as a person. Team D’Arcy all day.


Cute cat btw
that's just like the guy who killed hitler stuff. yeah he killed hitler but he also WAS HITLER you can't just discount that.
yes i realize this is reversing the analogy but you get the point.

and yeah of course he's a toxic narcissist, he's still my favorite SP member because without him i'd not care at all about the band (that wouldn't have existed)

cat is v cute thank you

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 07:19 PM   #68
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that's just like the guy who killed hitler stuff. yeah he killed hitler but he also WAS HITLER you can't just discount that.
yes i realize this is reversing the analogy but you get the point.

and yeah of course he's a toxic narcissist, he's still my favorite SP member because without him i'd not care at all about the band (that wouldn't have existed)

cat is v cute thank you
Fair enough. But because hes such a dickbag hes my least favorite member of the core four.

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 08:19 PM   #69
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Old 03-18-2020, 08:21 PM   #70
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in all srsness tho, i get where reprise is coming from. and back in the day b0lliamz was most def my fav. but now he's become such a scrotal sack.

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 09:29 PM   #71
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Honestly don't get how anyone could ever question James' and D'arcy's contribution. If all four never would been in a band together, none of these songs or albums ever would have been made. How they got there and how they were made is irrelevant at the end of the day. It's honestly shocking how Billy talks about this situation like its complicated or difficult to understand, when in reality its just why everyone loves rock bands, in that there's something really cool that happens sometimes when random people get together to play some music. I wasn't there when Siamese Dream was recorded. My best guess is that Billy probably was the better technical player, and maybe he did what needed to be done to to get the band over the top while the window of opportunity was open, but at the same time that album wouldn't exist without James and D'arcy.

 
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Old 03-18-2020, 09:35 PM   #72
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Yeah, without James and D'arcy you get Zeitgeist

 
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Old 03-19-2020, 08:31 AM   #73
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yeah it's no coincidence that the era that produced a shit-ton of high quality stuff (MCIS) was when all four members were most involved.
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Old 03-19-2020, 01:58 PM   #74
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Untroo fan alert: I still have to listen to all of TAFH.

 
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Old 03-31-2020, 10:57 PM   #75
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Untroo fan alert: I still have to listen to all of TAFH.
wtf? you serious?

the og box set, or you just mean the reissue extras?

 
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Old 03-31-2020, 10:59 PM   #76
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Untroo fan alert: I still have to listen to all of TAFH.
Omg do it its wicked

Post a review here after u do it

 
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Old 04-01-2020, 12:56 AM   #77
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guys please, he has far too many theoretical "what if ex-Pumpkins member did this or that" polls & threads to get through before doing something as pedestrian as listening to TAFH

 
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Old 04-01-2020, 12:57 AM   #78
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that said, Squish Squash if you've never heard "Set the Ray to Jerry" but you're out here asking about D'arcy's natural hair-color or what have you... I'm calling the police

Last edited by Joey Goldberg : 04-01-2020 at 01:06 AM. Reason: i said "said" instead of "heard." what, are you gonna tell my mommy?

 
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Old 04-01-2020, 01:25 AM   #79
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set the ray was on judas 0 so maybe more likely they have heard that already.

but if you haven't listened to pastichio medley, you are still to hear some of the best riffs you'll ever hear.

 
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Old 04-01-2020, 01:27 AM   #80
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yeah, that's what keeps me coming back to The Aeroplane Flies High

Pastichio fuckin' Medley

 
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Old 04-01-2020, 02:23 AM   #81
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yeah, that's what keeps me coming back to The Aeroplane Flies High

Pastichio fuckin' Medley
i do. some of the best stuff they've ever released, for real.

i still have the clips broken up as separate tracks to listen to in my music playlists. replaced some of them with gravity demos and reissue bonus tracks as they came out, but there's a bunch that still haven't been heard otherwise yet.

 
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Old 04-01-2020, 08:42 AM   #82
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it's really incredible how many awesome riffs and ideas boris came up with for the pumpkins at the time

 
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if billy was to release even just the full length instrumental demos for:

a dogs prayer
flipper
slurpee
camaro
dearth
harmonio
rigamorole
me rock you snow
porkbelly
fried

that would be the best thing he has released since msots, maybe even m2.


 
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Old 04-01-2020, 10:16 AM   #84
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It’s been said here and elsewhere ad nauseam but the fact big willie persists in punishing us, upon each new release, with either 1) warmed-over, hollow facsimiles of golden age pumpkins, or 2) outright trash, when we know there’s a veritable Everest of unused riffs in his toolkit, is maybe the saddest and most perplexing fact for the longsuffering pumpkinfan

Like, just roll tape and take those riffs, jam on em with big jim and slim james, and whoever on bass, honk into an sm58, and give us that = happy fanbase IMO

 
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Old 04-01-2020, 11:14 AM   #85
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Update: I’m pretty far through the expanded version and yes I listened to all of pasticho medley.

 
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