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Old 06-12-2018, 05:40 AM   #1
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Red face Solara Lyrics: what do they mean?

"Nothing but a body in my mind"

What does this...mean?

"Become the owl at midnight"
"Become the one that fights you"

Like, someone who can see in these dark? Who am I fighting?

"Bring down the sun"
"I'm not everyone"
"I'm sun-filled, bright"

So I'm going to assume this is a pseudo-Christian rock song and he's talking about being someone of faith who wants dat pure sun.

 
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Old 06-12-2018, 05:51 AM   #2
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It's about Billy and how his work is gonna be around forever, while other bands are just hype.

 
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Old 06-12-2018, 05:55 AM   #3
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Its about billys son chuchu who pissed him on his bald head.bolly liked it

 
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Old 06-12-2018, 05:56 AM   #4
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When billy started his pseudo esoteric shit thats when the downwardspiral started

 
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:04 AM   #5
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It's about Billy and how his work is gonna be around forever, while other bands are just hype.
"I’m here to stay
They're here today"

Oh I can see this angle for sure.

Maybe "Become the one that fights you" is about reuniting to play the hits

 
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:09 AM   #6
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It's an anti gentrification song. Billy is upset about young hip people moving into his neighborhood and opening "pop up" shops, galleries and eateries.


Burn down the sun = heat up something that's already hot = people moving into his neighborhood and trying to change it when it's already perfect


High and dry / nothing but a body = just expressing frustration and impotence / being unable to do anything about the situation


Become the owl at midnight = he's saying this place is his natural habitat and also that he's a predator and will eat the little mice trying to invade his tree


Become the one that fights you, I'm here to stay, etc... obvious.

 
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:26 AM   #7
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It’s a window into Billy’s subconscious mind as a narcissist:

“Burn down the sun”

Get rid of this moralily bull crap everyone is on my ass about

“I’m not everyone”

I’m not like most people. I don’t care about “the sun,” light, or morality

“I’m nothing but a body in my mind”

No soul, no feeling, no humanness. Just a body, an organic machine. Check out Sam Vaknin on YouTube. This is exactly how he describes the inner world of a narcissist.

 
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:48 PM   #8
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it's a song written by MrChooChoo

 
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:02 PM   #9
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It’s a window into Billy’s subconscious mind as a narcissist:

“Burn down the sun”

Get rid of this moralily bull crap everyone is on my ass about

“I’m not everyone”

I’m not like most people. I don’t care about “the sun,” light, or morality

“I’m nothing but a body in my mind”

No soul, no feeling, no humanness. Just a body, an organic machine. Check out Sam Vaknin on YouTube. This is exactly how he describes the inner world of a narcissist.
Speculation man, get yourself together!

 
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:43 AM   #10
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Speculation man, get yourself together!
Billy is a humble man you’re right

 
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:58 AM   #11
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Billy said on Stern he doesn't even know what it's about.

 
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:25 AM   #12
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Spiritual Mind is greater than body, although coexisting as one.
Body existing because of Mind.
I'm just a Body in my Mind.

 
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:30 AM   #13
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If there's honesty in this lyric, it's that there's something amiss in our cosmos. Yet still, we must love.

 
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Old 06-13-2018, 03:45 PM   #14
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Billy Corgan doesn't write songs with an inherent meaning in mind.

He takes a more aesthetic poetic approach to lyrics and puts words together that sound good and based on what he is feeling at the time.

He has admitted this many times including today on the Howard Stern interview.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:52 AM   #15
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He's talking about reductionism. Reducing the mind to its physical component. Probably an allusion to our shallow materialistic culture. You can divide your "self" an infinite number of ways depending on where you draw the boundaries. The body is the objective component.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:53 AM   #16
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Its about billys son chuchu who pissed him on his bald head.bolly liked it
nvm, this

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 07:56 AM   #17
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Maybe it’s from the perspective of Zero, who represents the quintessential nihilist and believes he’s just a body in his mind.

And that would explain why they also played the song Zero. Being Zero is becoming the one that fights him.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:48 AM   #18
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i am the quintessential nihilist, fool.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:49 AM   #19
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i am also the quintessential nihilist fool.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:50 AM   #20
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Maybe it’s from the perspective of Zero, who represents the quintessential nihilist and believes he’s just a body in his mind.

And that would explain why they also played the song Zero. Being Zero is becoming the one that fights him.
This is fake news

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:37 PM   #21
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Oh I’m sorry. Did you want me to pay attention to you?

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:11 PM   #22
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Maybe it’s from the perspective of Zero, who represents the quintessential nihilist and believes he’s just a body in his mind.

And that would explain why they also played the song Zero. Being Zero is becoming the one that fights him.
You sound like one of those people who is obsessed with concept albums and thinks every Nine Inch Nails songs tied into Year Zero somehow

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:20 PM   #23
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You sound like one of those people who is obsessed with concept albums and thinks every Nine Inch Nails songs tied into Year Zero somehow
Add Violence’s artwork and This Isn’t the Place’s video directly tied into YZ though.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 09:01 PM   #24
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You sound like one of those people who is obsessed with concept albums and thinks every Nine Inch Nails songs tied into Year Zero somehow
The concepts behind the work are definitely one of the reasons I follow SP and NIN. Billy resurrecting the Zero persona is more than nostalgia, and the allusions to light and whatnot are still in the spiritual zone.

It’ll be interesting to see what the video is like. The screen cap had an empty human size birdcage -maybe he’s trying to connect the rat in a cage nihilism of MCIS with escaping it through the light?

File this under ‘shit no one will ever directly ask Billy even though they should’

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:09 PM   #25
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the only good things billys' done are unconscious acts, because only unconscious acts are pure.

 
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:28 PM   #26
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The concepts behind the work are definitely one of the reasons I follow SP and NIN. Billy resurrecting the Zero persona is more than nostalgia, and the allusions to light and whatnot are still in the spiritual zone.

It’ll be interesting to see what the video is like. The screen cap had an empty human size birdcage -maybe he’s trying to connect the rat in a cage nihilism of MCIS with escaping it through the light?

File this under ‘shit no one will ever directly ask Billy even though they should’
Lmao okay

 
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:37 PM   #27
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Go listen to Foo Fighters dude.

 
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:46 PM   #28
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Go listen to Foo Fighters dude.
I will and I’ll concoct a link between every song and say that they’re all linked through an esoteric possession of the Cobain spirit embodied in Nietzcheian ideals of the ubermensch

 
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:51 PM   #29
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Except Billy is actually trying to say something underneath the surface of his music.

Anyway...

The more I think about it, this song seems to be a thematic answer to BWBW, except instead of the chorus about being trapped, it’s about being released by the truth. Bring down the sun etc.

 
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Old 06-26-2018, 08:34 PM   #30
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What was he trying to say beneath

Never been kissed by a girl like you
Ah-hoooo

 
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