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Old 08-03-2021, 02:10 PM   #1
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that the pumpkins fan group is probably the most toxic and dysfunctional of fan groups out there? or can you think of worse?

there are some great people, though.

 
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Old 08-03-2021, 02:30 PM   #2
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Old 08-03-2021, 03:01 PM   #3
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speak for yourselves, ya bastards

 
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Old 08-03-2021, 03:24 PM   #4
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it wasn't safe for you to say that, and i hope for your sake you have a damn good place to live in hiding for the next 4 weeks (if you're lucky)

 
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Old 08-03-2021, 04:40 PM   #5
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Yes and I will cyberstalk and harass anyone who disagrees.

 
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Old 08-03-2021, 04:42 PM   #6
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Insane Clown Posse fans can't be any better.
and they take this shit into real life. at least our toxic behaviour stays on the internet - right?

 
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Old 08-03-2021, 04:50 PM   #7
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anal

 
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Old 08-03-2021, 05:04 PM   #8
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Careful paranoid, talk like that will get a second-hand copy of Siddartha sent to your home address. You don’t wanna risk that.

 
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Old 08-03-2021, 05:05 PM   #9
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Yeah but at the same time it seems logical? I mean, Billy is kinda dysfunctional and toxic himself...

 
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Old 08-03-2021, 07:40 PM   #10
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LOL, what're you some kind of lurker? get real, i bet you're one of the haters after parry's life after this thread, scumbag!

 
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Old 08-04-2021, 11:34 PM   #11
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do you mean all of the fans, or just netphoria, or just the sad machines?

i think netphoria is really balanced and objective, as far as hardcore fans can go. and it's refreshing to have fans discuss art & artists without having the "they can do no wrong, they are like a god / idol" attitude. that's healthy to me, not toxic.

it could be classed as dysfunctional i guess seeing as most of us aren't fans of much post 2004 music... but i'd say that's billy's fault for dropping his standards (willingly or involuntarily) not the fans.

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 10:36 AM   #12
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do you mean all of the fans, or just netphoria, or just the sad machines?

i think netphoria is really balanced and objective, as far as hardcore fans can go. and it's refreshing to have fans discuss art & artists without having the "they can do no wrong, they are like a god / idol" attitude. that's healthy to me, not toxic.

it could be classed as dysfunctional i guess seeing as most of us aren't fans of much post 2004 music... but i'd say that's billy's fault for dropping his standards (willingly or involuntarily) not the fans.
This is pretty much true. It's hard to say SP has the most toxic fanbase as we live in an age of major fandom and people taking things too far. SP's dedicated fanbase is too small to really compare to any of that. There's the slight tension between Netphoria and Sad Machines but that's like 20 people on both sides. If there's something unique about the SP fanbase its how people react to Billy's weird decisions and narrative post 2000. I saw on the Facebook group today that someone was talking about how great D'arcy was. Literally the first response was defensive and talked about how Jack Bates was such a superior player to her, and that Katie Cole was carrying the torch as the girl in the band. I've seen it many times before but its strange to read stuff like that.

I'd say the fanbase can pretty much be divided into two groups, the fans of the band, and the fans of Billy. The fans of the band believe the music was a genuine team effort, no matter who came up with the root of an idea for the song. They hold Billy to account for his mismanagement of the relationships and his attempts to rewrite history. They believe having D'arcy on stage is every bit as important as having Billy on stage. The fans of Billy believe that SP is a Billy solo project, and through that view defend all of the decisions he has made throughout the last twenty years. One thing for sure is that its a real testament to how great that original band was if fans are still debating these issues 26 years after the band as we knew it ended.

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 11:06 AM   #13
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Many Weezer fans hate Weezer just as much as SP fans hate SP. The difference is Rivers Cuomo has written some of the best guitar ice cream pop since 2000.

Haters can hate but Weezer’s EWBAITE is delicious.

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 11:07 AM   #14
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Also Van Weezer is a good dad album to throw on while making dinner

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 11:42 AM   #15
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I think I made a valuable contribution to this thread in pointing out that Insane clown Possee fans. Juggalos are the worst. please respond.

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 11:56 AM   #16
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Nah.

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 12:05 PM   #17
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Kpop stans have straight-up fanwars with doxxing and shit. They even fight over things like "stanning" one member of a group and not all of them, or being "multi stans" vs only liking one group

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 12:16 PM   #18
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Seems like WPC is pretty chummy with Sad Machines so I'd hardly call them toxic.

Netphoria can be a bit mean spirited but I doubt WPC loses any sleep over 20 guys saying his voice sucks now.

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 12:26 PM   #19
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Seems like WPC is pretty chummy with Sad Machines so I'd hardly call them toxic.

Netphoria can be a bit mean spirited but I doubt WPC loses any sleep over 20 guys saying his voice sucks now.
I bet we cause him to lose sleep, at least a couple times a year.

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 01:51 PM   #20
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I know that Machina re-issue thread keeps him tossing and turning at night.

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 02:22 PM   #21
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I think I made a valuable contribution to this thread in pointing out that Insane clown Possee fans. Juggalos are the worst. please respond.
Juggalos hate Trumpees more than Billy. They’re ok

 
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Old 08-05-2021, 02:25 PM   #22
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Netphoria can be a bit mean spirited but I doubt WPC loses any sleep over 20 guys saying his voice sucks now.
Oh, it’s way more than 20 guys. Netphoria speaks for the people.

 
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Old 08-06-2021, 03:28 AM   #23
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those aren't fans

 
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Old 08-06-2021, 06:06 AM   #24
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that the pumpkins fan group is probably the most toxic and dysfunctional of fan groups out there? or can you think of worse?

there are some great people, though.
how many other fan groups do you know?

i hardly know any, so i don't think it's safe to say.

 
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