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05-15-2018, 02:59 AM | #1 |
Ownz
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Question about "Ugly" guitar sound
That tjacka-tjacka clean sound is so thick and meaty, how did he get that?
Maybe like a great clean amp and just running a compressor pedal to get more low-mid frequencies? Is the signal boosted? I can't even tell. Last edited by PuzzledMuzzle : 05-15-2018 at 03:50 AM. |
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05-15-2018, 03:51 AM | #2 |
Braindead
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i think it's triple tracked, with at least one of the main tracks at the front being a guitar with a Piezo pickup. you could get that sound from electric guitars as well, i had one, but he probably just DI'd his Ovation acoustic straight into the console and threw it on there. he's a good guitar player so his triple tracking is so lined up, it sounds like an effect.
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05-15-2018, 03:58 AM | #3 |
Braindead
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the rest is just mixing. there are no other instruments to compete for the spectrum so they can EQ and process it to make it sound huge and not worry about having to fit the bass/drums in. which would explain the meatyness.
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05-15-2018, 04:51 AM | #4 | |
Ownz
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05-15-2018, 08:25 AM | #5 |
Minion of Satan
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There’s definitely some delay on the guitar. You can hear it as he slides to the next notes.
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05-15-2018, 09:55 AM | #6 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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I know Billy has since said he wishes he had recorded "Ugly" as initially written; with the quiet-loud-quiet dynamic, but I do love the version he released.
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05-15-2018, 10:30 AM | #7 |
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05-15-2018, 11:16 AM | #8 |
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Why has there been multiple threads about the "Ugly" guitar sound its just a palm muted guitar, maybe one of the least interesting songs tone wise in their catalogue.
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05-15-2018, 11:38 AM | #9 |
Braindead
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list your best sp tones
slow dawn |
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05-15-2018, 01:00 PM | #10 |
dumb
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Rocket live @ Rio
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05-15-2018, 04:25 PM | #11 |
Ownz
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94 tone all the way. That German show, the tone is fucking divine
And I never use the word divine |
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05-16-2018, 12:31 AM | #12 |
dumb
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Alabamahalle?
That show is fucking divine, don't be ashamed. Guitar tone is amazing, band is speeding the songs up a ton, everyone is sweaty You can stop throwing cups now. The joke is over |
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05-16-2018, 12:38 AM | #13 |
Apocalyptic Poster
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Hummer first verse/chorus and outro
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05-16-2018, 12:39 AM | #14 |
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Here is no why
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05-16-2018, 12:52 AM | #15 |
dumb
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The last Dsus2 in Hummer with Jimmy doing the cymbal swells just made me glad to be alive for like 5 years
so pretty |
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08-01-2018, 10:54 PM | #16 | |
Pledge
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It's electric guitar -> delay -> amp. "Ugly" has a delay in there for the rhythmic effect, but it isn't needed to get that midrange-heavy click. No need for a compressor either. It's all in the pick attack and touch. Here's the Cars doing "My Best Friend's Girl" recorded and live. Simple as that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkSmLh2Hbi0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH7NxDB5lE4 |
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08-01-2018, 11:48 PM | #17 |
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Does anyone have any sources for these extremely specific technical details they are putting forth about the “Ugly” recording ?
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08-01-2018, 11:53 PM | #18 |
Minion of Satan
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Who knows what he used. They had so many amps and guitars at their disposal. I’d go with a Silverface Fender amp of some sort, with a jazzmaster, and delay for the “Ugly” tone. That’s what it sounds like to me. Could just ask him on instagram, he usually replies.
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08-02-2018, 01:11 AM | #19 |
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let us not be afraid to ask the difficult questions
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08-02-2018, 01:37 AM | #20 | |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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08-02-2018, 01:42 AM | #21 |
Just Hook it to My Veins!
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now listening with headphones, maybe it is delay. but I still think there are multiple guitars there
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08-02-2018, 02:11 AM | #22 |
Starbucks addicted minion
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It sounds like a really quiet amp with the mic pres cranked up and compressed with a medium to slow attack and a fast release.
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08-02-2018, 02:48 AM | #23 |
Immortal
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how bout that keyboard tone
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08-02-2018, 10:50 AM | #24 | |
Pledge
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Billy goes over the gear used on the MCIS sessions. No surprises. He used his rack setup and a handful of extremely common amps. The guitars he mentions in the interview are the same ones that everyone already knows about, and which can be seen in the various rehearsal/studio pics and videos. The ES-335 he mentioned using on “Tonight Tonight” showed up at one of those Award show performances. MTV I think. So, with regards to what was used on “Ugly”, Occam’s Razor applies. |
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