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Old 08-17-2021, 03:18 PM   #31
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Someone asked Jimmy [Ö] and he said there was a couple of Oceania songs he wanted to do but it's "not a straight forward situation to perform going forward" with the "technical aspects and mechanics of performing a Smashing Pumpkins show".
what does that mean?

 
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Old 08-17-2021, 03:21 PM   #32
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it means he's officially lost his mind and now only speaks in riddles and randomly assembled phrasing originally intended for LiveOne business conferences & industry-related Corgan conversations

 
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Old 08-18-2021, 05:16 AM   #33
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Billy's been silencing his victims for decades, and no one speaks up because of Billy's industry connections and threats of aggressive litigation. He has all the power, and if you speak up, he'll fuck you up.
courtney taught him well

 
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Old 08-18-2021, 07:02 AM   #34
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what does that mean?
No idea. I doubt there's room in their tour plans anyway for Oceania songs (tours are going to be all "trilogy" related cinematic celebrations of eras for the next few years)

 
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Old 08-18-2021, 07:14 AM   #35
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courtney taught him well
The NDA thing probably isn't 100% true.

 
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Old 08-18-2021, 11:50 PM   #36
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Old 08-19-2021, 12:49 AM   #37
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Oceania is wildly underrated. If it didn't carry the name SP it would be a classic. It's the only time in the past nearly 30 years BC has put ANY effort into making a good album. I still don't get why this album is praised on here universally. The reviews are excellent

 
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Old 08-19-2021, 02:21 PM   #38
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I mean, it doesnít have any hooks or singles and itís pretty blah.

 
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Old 08-19-2021, 03:01 PM   #39
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Iíd rather listen to Teargarden than Oceania, but if you want evidence of some bizarre decision making by Corgmeister:

He had Tom Tom, and Owata (butchered but still) just sat there. Nobody really listened to Teargarden, but he didnít think to re-record them for Oceania? Like he throws away perfectly good material. If he got Jimmy and James, Jeff and Batesy in a room, and they re-recorded most of SP 2.0 material with SP 1.0 style production then there would be a ton of decent material worth praise.

 
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Old 08-21-2021, 03:01 AM   #40
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He had Tom Tom, and Owata (butchered but still) just sat there.
I'd also tack Lightning Strikes onto that list. That was a highlight of the 2011 show that I saw in Vegas.

Which, in looking back, was a great show. Sure, it was Mikey - but still. That setlist held major water.

 
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Old 08-21-2021, 09:17 AM   #41
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y'all are kinda stretching here - i get a lot of crits delivered @ b0lly & his b0lly enterprises, but like

those songs came out already

on discs

hard discs

who gives a "rat's bottom" if they were on the toilet album or not?

 
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Old 08-24-2021, 08:14 AM   #42
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The perfect album to listen to while watching the grass grow.

 
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Old 08-25-2021, 01:13 PM   #43
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I'd also tack Lightning Strikes onto that list. That was a highlight of the 2011 show that I saw in Vegas.

Which, in looking back, was a great show. Sure, it was Mikey - but still. That setlist held major water.
I went to the Oceania warmup show in Tulsa, with Mikey, still a top 5 concert

 
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O[ceania]Doyle Rules!

 
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Old 08-26-2021, 02:11 AM   #45
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I went to the Oceania warmup show in Tulsa, with Mikey, still a top 5 concert
Interesting - what date we talking here? Setlist?

 
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Old 08-26-2021, 07:58 AM   #46
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Someone asked Jimmy in that drum workshop a while back and he said there was a couple of Oceania songs he wanted to do but it's "not a straight forward situation to perform going forward" with the "technical aspects and mechanics of performing a Smashing Pumpkins show".
that means bill won't perform the song

Jimmy plays lots of songs he didn't record or have have credits on

 
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