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Old 08-03-2020, 04:53 PM   #61
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I made my own "Best Of" post-Machinas SP album that ain't bad. There's enough there for maybe a 12-14 track decent album. It's still not better than what's become before it, but tolerable.
I'll still throw on Zeitgeist or Oceania once in a while. In my book, medicore isn't a code-word for shit, I just consider those to be overall average albums, pretty well the epitome of a 5/10 or 6/10, whereas I'd call virtually everything from the initial run 8.5-10. And it's allright to have the urge to listen to average music every once in a while if the band means something to you, IMO

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 03:00 AM   #62
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Tolerable? Wow..... yeah the sp has become a tolerable middleclass rock/pop combo ....the biggest failure was releasing zeitgeist...which was one of the worst comeback albums ever..... with zeitgeist they lost more fans/ casual listeners than they could gain with thelast 3 albums

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 06:51 AM   #63
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I think the biggest problem is not Billy's songwriting but production. He wrote good songs that either didn't get recorded or got ruined in studio.

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Old 08-04-2020, 08:32 AM   #64
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Yup his vocal style and the production turned to shit around the same time.

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 10:51 AM   #65
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I agree with the vocals and the production..... the vibrato is unbearable

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 10:54 AM   #66
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Definitely the vocal style and production affect the overall results, but the songs themselves just aren't that strong.

I will listen to everything Billy releases probably until forever, but certainly it seems a case of diminishing returns, and the best case in the last decade is that there's some tracks that I won't skip if they come up on the shuffle.

It's like the Pixies - people seem to get so angry that the last couple of albums aren't as good as Doolittle - well no shit, they don't have Kim Deal, and there is zero chance they'll ever do anything like that again. I still enjoy the band enough that I enjoy listening to the new stuff, but am I excited about it? No.

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 11:43 AM   #67
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Hell no it's like the Pixies. They still put out cool albums with awesome songs here and there.

Billy puts out turdacious albums with mediocre songs here and there.

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 12:16 PM   #68
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Hell no it's like the Pixies. They still put out cool albums with awesome songs here and there.

Billy puts out turdacious albums with mediocre songs here and there.
Yeah okay fair enough

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 03:57 PM   #69
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At SPs lowest points I've been able to tell myself "at least it's not as bad as modern Pixies".

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 04:25 PM   #70
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i'm beginning to think some of you aren't even excited for shiny bright 3/2

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 04:53 PM   #71
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At SPs lowest points I've been able to tell myself "at least it's not as bad as modern Pixies".
You and your brother-in-law Larry are dead to me forever!

 
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Old 08-04-2020, 08:08 PM   #72
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all the post-reunion pixies albums are garbage and none of them have kim deal.

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 01:23 AM   #73
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all the post-reunion pixies albums are garbage and none of them have kim deal.
The latest Pixies album was arguably better than Trompe le Monde. Plus even at their worst they sound more or less like Doolittle-era Pixies.

Smashing Pumpkins haven’t sounded like peak Pumpkins (SD/MCIS) on record in over 20 years.

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 02:23 AM   #74
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Took, you are repeating yourself

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 03:18 AM   #75
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The latest Pixies album was arguably better than Trompe le Monde. Plus even at their worst they sound more or less like Doolittle-era Pixies.
the latest pixies album was so bad that I can only conclude that it's a foreign intelligence "psy-op" experiment to help determine the cracking point of the average person when their quality of life is eroded.

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 04:57 AM   #76
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Pixies have become as unimportant in the world of music as sp.

I listened to anaise; pomp and run2me yesterday and was really surprised how someone can think that such shit can even make it on an album.

It is cringeworthy...

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 05:13 AM   #77
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the latest pixies album was so bad that I can only conclude that it's a foreign intelligence "psy-op" experiment to help determine the cracking point of the average person when their quality of life is eroded.
Reminder youíre posting this shit on a Smashing Pumpkins forum.

The latest Pixies album has some great tracks and is solid from beginning to end. Are you sure youíre not confusing it with the one before?

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 07:15 AM   #78
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Yeah I just checked Beneath the Eyrie.

Graveyard Hill & Catfish Kate are decent singles.
The 6-track run of Silver Bullet - Daniel Boone is quintessential Pixies.

It blows away anything Bill has put out SP2 onwards.

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Old 08-05-2020, 07:36 AM   #79
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Yeah Daniel Boone is excellent. Really dig Long Rider too.

Santiago's guitar work has aged like a fine dad.

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 08:18 AM   #80
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My dad says Pixies is a satanic band for total losers and that the only reason they’re so popular is b/c so many horny boys bought their album so they could jackbate to the bare boobies on the cover

 
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Wow our dads are exactly the same!!

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 09:07 AM   #82
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Am I the only one here who never gave a shit about Pixies

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 10:56 AM   #83
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I give a wet fart on pixies too....kompletter scheiss....

Belzebub should' ve asked himaelf: where is my mind when releasing bullshit like anaise, pomp, or run2me......
They still might get little attention in the usa, but honestly europe doesnt give a shit about the sp........ the last song i heard on alternative radio was " stand inside...." and that was last year.

 
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Old 08-05-2020, 11:34 AM   #84
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Yeah I just checked Beneath the Eyrie.

Graveyard Hill & Catfish Kate are decent singles.
The 6-track run of Silver Bullet - Daniel Boone is quintessential Pixies.

It blows away anything Bill has put out SP2 onwards.
For real. Was shocked at how good the album is.

 
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Old 08-07-2020, 09:30 AM   #85
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Stop trying to trick people into listening to that terrible record

 
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Old 08-07-2020, 12:19 PM   #86
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Stop trying to trick people into listening to that terrible record
Daniel Boone is a top-tier Pixies track.

Itís a good record. Unlucky.

 
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Old 08-07-2020, 02:37 PM   #87
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Pixies only have one good song that song about Missy marijuana

 
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Old 08-07-2020, 06:34 PM   #88
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Way back in the day everyone that knew I was into Nirvana and SP would recommend The Pixies. They would say shit like "that's where the loud/quiet dynamic of alternative rock comes from." I remember watching Fight Club and hearing their track in that movie. I really loved it and finally caved in and went down the rabbit hole of their discography. I can't for the life of me figure out how the hell The Pixies sound anything remotely like Nirvana or SP. They're music is atrocious and akin to something like surf rock than grunge. I'll tell you exactly what they remind me of and maybe they did influence this: those little filler music pieces n children's TV shows back in the 90's.

 
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akin to something like surf rock than grunge
you say that like it's a con & not a pro

 
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ain't everybody had enough GRUNGE by this point? did we not all get our fill of eddie vedder EEEEEE-murrrrleminininiyellowledbetter now?

no? well fine!

 
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