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Old 04-06-2019, 09:13 PM   #1
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Default why is stranglehold part of window paine?

has corgan ever commented on why he used the solo from ted nugent's stranglehold in window paine? it's so obvious i always assumed it's deliberate. or were we not suppose to notice it? never heard of him ever speaking about it.

i'd ask him on twitter but i'm afraid he's going to publicly mock me.

 
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Old 04-06-2019, 10:16 PM   #2
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Never heard the song before. Instead of making me seek through the eight-minute track to find which of the 11 guitar solos you're referring to, why not just directly link to it?

 
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Old 04-06-2019, 10:19 PM   #3
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that just ain't how emilem plays the game, man

 
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Old 04-06-2019, 11:36 PM   #4
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Too lame to post the music...:



"sometimes you gotta start low"

Billy knows the music of the seventies like nobody else...
And Ted Nugent heard the Bolero.

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Old 04-07-2019, 01:34 AM   #5
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sInE!!!!@

 
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Old 04-07-2019, 01:40 AM   #6
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we wanted you to post to the WWMM part of the song.
no one wants to listen to the whole thing, we know it's bad.

 
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Old 04-07-2019, 11:39 AM   #7
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sorry guys, i guess this is aimed at people who know what i’m talking about. well, now you know too. its just kinda weird he never gave ted a proper credit.

 
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Old 04-07-2019, 12:27 PM   #8
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It's just a generic 70's metal riff/solo


 
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Old 04-07-2019, 02:06 PM   #9
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It's just a generic 70's metal riff/solo

not the part i'm reffering to but this is indeed very similar as well. is gish just a collection of 70s hard rock riffs corgan borrowed form his favourite acts? is that why he likes greta van fleet so much?

 
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Old 04-07-2019, 02:09 PM   #10
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Nah, he also borrowed from Jane's Addiction

 
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Old 04-07-2019, 02:55 PM   #11
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it was used in jeff beck even before nugent

 
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Old 04-07-2019, 03:28 PM   #12
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Jimmy lifted the drums as well.

 
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:58 PM   #13
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Actually that Link Wray song is from the 1950s, it is probably the inspiration for Nugent and those that made it “generic.” BC probably lifted it from shitty 70s prog like he did Cherub Rock

 
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Old 04-07-2019, 08:08 PM   #14
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Actually that Link Wray song is from the 1950s, it is probably the inspiration for Nugent and those that made it “generic.” BC probably lifted it from shitty 70s prog like he did Cherub Rock
right it's one of the most iconic game changing songs in rock

like...lol

 
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Old 04-08-2019, 06:58 AM   #15
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Actually that Link Wray song is from the 1950s, it is probably the inspiration for Nugent and those that made it “generic.” BC probably lifted it from shitty 70s prog like he did Cherub Rock
What I meat was lots of 70s metal bands used that same riff structure on lots of songs to the point it became generic. I don't think Billy lifted it from Ted nugget.

 
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Old 04-08-2019, 07:01 AM   #16
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:12 PM   #17
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What I meat was lots of 70s metal bands used that same riff structure on lots of songs to the point it became generic. I don't think Billy lifted it from Ted nugget.
lol stop making this weird moot point. it's not about the riff structure. name one that uses the same solo melody and drum pattern. so far you posted 0 songs that do.

 
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Old 04-08-2019, 05:30 PM   #18
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Q. Why is Stranglehold by Ted Nugent part of window paine?

A. So you don’t have to listen to Ted Nugent, silly

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Old 04-08-2019, 07:45 PM   #19
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Nugent has some pretty fucking badass songs and guitar licks (too bad he's walking garbage)

 
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Old 04-08-2019, 09:49 PM   #20
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already the worst song on Gish, why not throw some Nugent into the stew???

 
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:07 PM   #21
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Window Paine is good, shut up!

 
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:31 PM   #22
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Too lame to post the music...:



"sometimes you gotta start low"

Billy knows the music of the seventies like nobody else...
And Ted Nugent heard the Bolero.

 
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Old 04-08-2019, 11:59 PM   #23
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B'arcy has some pretty fucking badass songs and guitar licks (too bad he's walking garbage)
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Old 04-09-2019, 12:09 AM   #24
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ted nugent is like evil tho

 
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Old 04-09-2019, 01:51 AM   #25
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Ted Nugent is a smoking gun...

 
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:04 PM   #26
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I've never heard a similarity between the two.

 
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:17 PM   #27
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The stranglehold is a leading reason for today’s epidemic of young men with impotent penises

 
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Old 04-11-2019, 08:57 AM   #28
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The opening of Stranglehold sounds similar to I Am One

 
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Old 04-21-2019, 10:44 AM   #29
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From a vintage tour book of the Smashing Pumpkins (1997):


 
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Old 04-21-2019, 02:57 PM   #30
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Mildly interesting. Thank you.

 
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