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Old 04-27-2019, 12:00 PM   #1
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Default Bugg Superstar Ultimate Appreciation Super-Mega-Thread



May this thread never die (like Bugg did).

 
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:01 PM   #2
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:04 PM   #3
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why does this song have better drums and energy than any of his sleepy solo material?

 
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:09 PM   #4
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is this the official thread?

 
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:14 PM   #5
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is this the official thread?
not quite, i couldn't get corporate sponsorship or endorsement

 
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Old 04-27-2019, 02:54 PM   #6
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Bugg on a ride with James at his bike, suddenly hunting a squirrel...


 
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Old 04-27-2019, 02:58 PM   #7
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That's the real poignant question on new year's eve....Who is Bugg, and why are we here?

 
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Old 04-27-2019, 03:25 PM   #8
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did buggs death signal the end of the band?


billy (the cat person) must have really hated james for being a dog person.

 
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Old 04-27-2019, 06:13 PM   #9
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I love that Billy's comments in that fan club thing are basically the same as instagram today. "We are working on an x and x release. We cut xx songs and choose from them."

Meanwhile, Iha is like, "sorry I am lazy"

 
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Old 04-28-2019, 10:37 AM   #10
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Old 04-28-2019, 01:42 PM   #11
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Old 04-28-2019, 01:55 PM   #12
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A boy and his dog

by James Iha, Smashing Pumpkins guitar player

March 1994

Sassy Magazine

Potato Dog, Salmon Dog, Pterodactyl Dog, Bugg Dog, Bugg-a-Giorno, Buggellini-these are but a few nicknames I have given to my dog, Bugg, symbolizing the trust that grew between a boy and his dog. Five years ago, a puppy was given to a roommate of mine as a present. At first he was welcomed for his cuteness, but she soon disowned him after realizing how much work a puppy created (plus he grew to the size of a smallish prairie-grazing bison). Though I had never owned a pet and regarded them as a waste of time, I felt bad for Bugg and began to help out by taking him for walks, checking his food and water dish, and, reluctantly, cleaning up after him. After a while I had a respect for the beast and I enjoyed the responsibility. And I've seen Bugg grow from the boy that nobody wanted into a strong, loyal and loving, uh...dog.

 
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:27 AM   #13
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Seriously, though, isn’t this totally cringe?

 
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Old 04-29-2019, 05:45 AM   #14
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Old 04-29-2019, 05:54 AM   #15
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A little known fact is that Bugg played all of James and D'arcy's guitar and bass parts on Siamese Dream. This pissed James and D'arcy off. Since Bugg is a dog, and dogs are cute, James and D'arcy didn't want to be angry at Bugg. So, they blamed Billy instead. Out of anger, James and D'arcy wrote Adore, which was the Pumpkins' next album. It didn't sell well, so Billy still had the last laugh.

 
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Old 04-29-2019, 07:26 AM   #16
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in what conceivable way?

 
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It's sorta like....something that we would 3000% talk shit about today if it came out, but somehow worked back during the (almost mythical) good era

Imagine all the jokes about how Willie Boy, Second of his Name, was better than Solara

 
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Old 04-29-2019, 02:10 PM   #18
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A boy and his dog

by James Iha, Smashing Pumpkins guitar player

March 1994

Sassy Magazine

Potato Dog, Salmon Dog, Pterodactyl Dog, Bugg Dog, Bugg-a-Giorno, Buggellini-these are but a few nicknames I have given to my dog, Bugg, symbolizing the trust that grew between a boy and his dog. Five years ago, a puppy was given to a roommate of mine as a present. At first he was welcomed for his cuteness, but she soon disowned him after realizing how much work a puppy created (plus he grew to the size of a smallish prairie-grazing bison). Though I had never owned a pet and regarded them as a waste of time, I felt bad for Bugg and began to help out by taking him for walks, checking his food and water dish, and, reluctantly, cleaning up after him. After a while I had a respect for the beast and I enjoyed the responsibility. And I've seen Bugg grow from the boy that nobody wanted into a strong, loyal and loving, uh...dog.
(*Obligatory Phil Hartman SNL 'Sassy Magazine' reference*)

 
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Old 04-29-2019, 03:25 PM   #19
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I love that Billy's comments in that fan club thing are basically the same as instagram today. "We are working on an x and x release. We cut xx songs and choose from them."
i had never seen that fan club thingy, but just imagine that back then, major label pressure would ensure that they release it the month after recording, not a whole year later.

and the end result would be a successful endeavour to most people who had read that fan club thingy...

 
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Old 04-29-2019, 03:52 PM   #20
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i had never seen that fan club thingy, but just imagine that back then, major label pressure would ensure that they release it the month after recording, not a whole year later.

and the end result would be a successful endeavour to most people who had read that fan club thingy...
back in the days when BC delivered

i think we could say that social media today to some degree fulfills the "fan club" model, which in the old days was basically about publicity and brand loyalty in order to solidify a purchasing public

 
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Old 04-30-2019, 10:31 AM   #21
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From : Web chat with Billy Corgan and James Iha on July 14th, 1999

http://www.spfc.org/news-press/inter...ontent_id=2811

"[Bquestion] [somagrl] did the band get along during the recording of gish?
[James] [shaunkardinal] who's toes are those in the picture of bugg, in gish?
[James] I believe those are my toes.
[Billy] yes, we got along great…and as a matter of fact we've always gotten along great…all the rest is media hype"

"[James] [omar1] James what is the one most thing you enjoy out of life?
[James] I enjoy being completely domestic, grocery shopping, walking Bugg, and Rocking the world. I guess that's 3 things."

"[James] [BillyLoon] How is Bugg doing? Does he still hang out with the band?
[James] Bugg still has his "paw" in executive managing the band."

and billy returning the attention to himself:

"[James>][Noetic]How is bugg?
[James] Bugg is fantastic. He's a good man. Actually, he's a good dog.
[Billy] i hate to be redundant…but this is a gish chat…"

 
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Old 05-04-2019, 12:15 AM   #24
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That’s a great pic

 
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Old 05-04-2019, 01:53 PM   #25
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[Billy] i hate to be redundant…but this is a gish chat…"
amazing

thanks for that link!

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what kind of cars do you guys drive?
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Whats the new album going to be called?
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it's really odd seeing Gish-era pictures now. bittersweet as fuck, just seeing how happy & relaxed Billy actually seemed to look and knowing the quality of the music he was about to make, right before becoming this crotchety old dickweed who couldn't put out a solid album if his life depended on it solely because of his perception of "the kids" and their highly-informed market desires

 
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:16 PM   #27
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It's all gone ugly, even their dogs...


 
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hey now, the only thing wrong with that dog is that it's only got two legs!

 
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Boring old at another 9 1/2 YEARS...


 
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why does this song have better drums and energy than any of his sleepy solo material?
Because a slow, romantic song about a dog would be weird.

 
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