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Old 08-26-2007, 04:59 AM   #1
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Default why do people say zeitgeist sounds like sabbath???

alot of reviews say that zeitgeist sounds like sabbath...
but that is not true...
what song sounds like sabbath?
maybe some guitar parts on united states ... but not the hole song...not he harmonics, not the drumming...
all the other songs dont sound even close to sabbath

 
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Old 08-26-2007, 12:10 PM   #2
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i dunno. the verse riff of doomsday clock has a sabbath-esque vibe. but agreed. that's about it.

 
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:39 PM   #3
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It's the same sort of criminal overgeneralization that gets every band that uses feedback compared to My Bloody Valentine.

 
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:50 PM   #4
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US is such a boring Sabbath rip off. Seriously if you don't hear Sabbath all over that song you need to have your ears checked.

 
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Old 08-26-2007, 02:20 PM   #5
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I wish Zeitgeist sounded like Sabbath...

 
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Old 08-26-2007, 04:09 PM   #6
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United States = Black Sabbath's Children of the Grave

 
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:41 PM   #7
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I wish Zeitgeist sounded like Sabbath...
It might if it weren't produced like Queen.

I have seen them live twice so far since the reincarnation, and both times I am fairly sure I heard the riff from Sabbath's Hole in the Sky worked into HMM.

 
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:03 AM   #8
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United States = Black Sabbath's Children of the Grave
what???
the theme is diffrent, drums are diffrent, guitar is diffrent, production is diffrent,
singin is diffrent...zeitgeist doesnt sound like sabbath...at all...
u.s. doesnt sound like sabbath...the beat is to fast for a sabbath song...
+ harmonics....impossible to compare the 2 bands

 
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:31 AM   #9
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what???
the theme is diffrent, drums are diffrent, guitar is diffrent, production is diffrent,
singin is diffrent...zeitgeist doesnt sound like sabbath...at all...
u.s. doesnt sound like sabbath...the beat is to fast for a sabbath song...
+ harmonics....impossible to compare the 2 bands
you're right, they're two entirely "diffrent" bands and songs...

 
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:07 AM   #10
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what???
the theme is diffrent, drums are diffrent, guitar is diffrent, production is diffrent,
singin is diffrent...zeitgeist doesnt sound like sabbath...at all...
u.s. doesnt sound like sabbath...the beat is to fast for a sabbath song...
+ harmonics....impossible to compare the 2 bands
Corgan sometimes in the early days talked about how he took the sound of his favorite bands and combined them to get the Pumpkins sound. Sabbath is easily in the top 5. In fact, Geek USA began as a total Sabbath rip off that Corgan was able to work into something his own. So saying that they are not comparable is ridiculous, of course they are, the Pumpkins were directly influenced by Sabbath.

 
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:24 AM   #11
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im guessing its because some of the songs on the zeit are played with the guitar tuned down to dflat as well

 
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:31 AM   #12
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you're right, they're two entirely "diffrent" bands and songs...
wtf? this isnt a spelling bee contest... go suck on your mamas tity

 
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:35 AM   #13
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and black sabbath never used keyboards and electronics ...

 
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:47 AM   #14
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Db is the spirit of the times.

 
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:48 AM   #15
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Actually Black Sabbath had a keyboard player for at least 10 years. And its not like Zeitgeist is very keyboard/electronic oriented

 
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:39 AM   #16
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OMFG!!!! This is so true: Zeitgeist = B. Sabbath

Holy shit for what I found!!!! After I see this thread I went to hear some Sabbath songs (I knew Sabbath name of course but didnt really associate one music to them, I knew they was something btw Iron Maiden, Moterhead and those kinda of stuff) and for my suprise definitly Sabbath is the sound more similar to Zeitgeist I heard, the comum points btw them are, for example:
- the guitar riffs (oh that old rock style)
- the distortion (standard rock distortion)
- the solos (the solos are the same shit, that rock style but with very few weird sounds-- weird sounds=old pumpkins-- in the middle)
- the drums (linear rock drums)
- the Sabbath voice (well actually the fucking annoying Billy's voice on Zeitgeist made me think: "Billy wanted to copy the strident Ozzy voice")

Well when I hear Zeitgeist I though they sound was so Queen influenced but no Zeitgeist is much more Sabbath influenced... (maybe Scorpions too lol).

The difference is B. Sabbath are themselves while Smashing Pumpkins are not B. Sabbath... so wtf are you b0lly doing?!?

 
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:01 AM   #17
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Every band that uses distorted, low-end guitar riffs in minor keys gets compared to Sabbath. Hell, I've even seen Nine Inch Nails compared to them, and he only uses guitars half of the time.

 
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:10 PM   #18
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Every band that uses distorted, low-end guitar riffs in minor keys gets compared to Sabbath. Hell, I've even seen Nine Inch Nails compared to them, and he only uses guitars half of the time.
Like I said, it's a vulgar generalization, like how anything with fuzz and feedback sounds like My Bloody Valentine.

 
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:49 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by M.Night
alot of reviews say that zeitgeist sounds like sabbath...
but that is not true...
what song sounds like sabbath?
maybe some guitar parts on united states ... but not the hole song...not he harmonics, not the drumming...
all the other songs dont sound even close to sabbath

i disagree, the hole song sounds just like sabbath.

 
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:16 AM   #20
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and black sabbath never used keyboards and electronics ...
oh my fucking god, have you even listened to a black sabbath album past the hits? jesus christ...

 
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:27 AM   #21
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and black sabbath never used keyboards and electronics ...
time to change the screen name m.night

 
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:18 AM   #22
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i dont think that it sounds like sabbath.. and i have heard a fair bit of sabbath...

i mean it sounds like sabbath in the sence that both sound like rock...

you people need to get off the blue pills.. take the red ones instead...

 
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:33 AM   #23
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As soon as i heard the reverse reverb on the opening vocal of tarantula I thought "Oh fuck, Billy's doing an Ozzy" but thanks fuck that's where the similarities end.

 
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Old 08-29-2007, 07:25 AM   #24
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i dont listent to doomsday clock. i dont know why but i dont really like it. i like it more than starz i suppose but those two songs are my leasted listened to on Z

 
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