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04-19-2019, 09:42 PM | #61 |
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only billy can have sideprojects, that's the rule
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04-19-2019, 10:07 PM | #62 |
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I don't believe he had any during that stretch of time. He was "all in with the Smashing Pumpkins"
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04-19-2019, 10:43 PM | #63 |
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It’s not uncommon for musicians to have side projects. Billy is just a fucking dick.
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04-20-2019, 01:24 AM | #64 |
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04-20-2019, 02:59 AM | #65 |
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I only saw the Byrne + Fiorentino line-up once in 2010 and Michael Byrne most definitely did not suck. The next time I saw “The Pumpkins” was with Killers guy and Rage Against The Machine dude in 2015 and IMO, I'll take 2010 Pumpkins anyday over that supergroup...
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04-20-2019, 08:58 AM | #66 |
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Florentino was great. Probably the best combination of skill, creativity & tone they've had since the original breakup and kept it from being the "boys club" it is today. Bill shoulda just sacked Byrne & been done with it
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04-20-2019, 11:09 AM | #67 | |
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04-20-2019, 12:40 PM | #68 |
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04-20-2019, 05:44 PM | #69 | |
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Fuck I think I actually enjoyed that whole performance to some degree |
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04-20-2019, 06:25 PM | #70 |
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04-20-2019, 07:37 PM | #71 | |
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Billy, 2014: “she played way too on top of the beat and it really messed up the SP sound. Also, fuck her for having a band.” |
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04-20-2019, 07:40 PM | #72 |
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He was 18 with no professional experience let alone at the arena band level. There’s a reason musicians talk about “paying dues” before they land major gigs. It’s almost impossible to jump outta high school into the NFL no matter how talented you are. You have to get real world experience first. Even just the strenuous pace of traveling every day and playing shows every night is something people have to build up to over the course of years. I think mike did phenomenally well under the circumstances. He was basically set up to fail.
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04-27-2019, 12:49 AM | #73 |
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04-27-2019, 01:17 AM | #74 |
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Mike's greatest effort of knowledge to the Pumpkins:
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04-27-2019, 07:49 AM | #75 |
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Flashback:
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04-27-2019, 07:54 AM | #76 |
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Nicole: "We went there to write the record that I was on with them...Oceania...we went to Sedona, Arizona to write, so Meg came along with me."
Interviewer: "That band (SP) writes together???" Nicole: "Ehhhhhhh....well, that's tricky." Interviewer: "You don't have to talk about it." Nicole: [laughing] "...that was tricky...we tried!...we definitely tried." Meghan Toohey: "It didn't quite work out for them but for me it was like a carthardic experience." --- 2012: “The whole thing fell apart when Mike told me we had to cancel because Billy Corgan was like, ‘Oh, we have to be doing demos in Los Angeles during the time that you’re supposed to be on tour.’ And he told him super last minute in Portugal. So I had to cancel all the dates,” Scott says. “And the crappy thing is they didn’t even go to do demos. Mike was home during the time we were supposed to go on tour.” For his part, Scott doesn’t begrudge Byrne’s dominance of the band’s schedule. Thankfully, Scott isn’t just wasting away when Byrne is traversing the globe with Corgan and company. He studies electrical engineering at the University of Portland and eventually plans to use what he’s learning to build amps and pedals. For now, Scott is fine being “that guy in the band with The Smashing Pumpkins drummer.” “I do my best not to trade on his name and be like, ‘Hey, he’s in The Smashing Pumpkins, so we deserve this.’ I do my best not to use his job as a way to launch this band,” Scott says, starting to laugh. “Because I really think that people who are into The Smashing Pumpkins would f---ing hate Bearcubbin’.” https://www.inlander.com/spokane/the...nt?oid=2139020 --- Billy: "Mike Byrne has taught me a lot about his generation. And watching the twitch up close, the ADD of it all, I’m starting to understand what he found boring about The Mighty SP." |
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04-27-2019, 09:11 AM | #77 |
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tbh the bearcubbin members should have let Mike focus on SP and got a new drummer.
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04-28-2019, 01:00 AM | #78 | |
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and your post stuck in my head while watching. Like...I'm not as good as Mike, and sure, I can play a good amount of that stuff at tempo, and "get through it", but fuck, just watching him play is mesmerizing. There's so much nuance you'd be hard pressed to notice from just listening....those fills starting with flams on the toms in WBFTT, him choking the cymbals going into breaks in Zero and Fuck You, all the while looking almost maddeningly nonchalant It's like complaining that Brady didn't notice a linebacker dropping back while you'd probably be too busy pissing yourself at the large men trying to tackle you |
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04-28-2019, 04:43 AM | #79 | |
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thx |
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04-28-2019, 06:20 AM | #80 |
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04-28-2019, 11:12 AM | #81 | |
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You could even see the charisma slowly drain out of him during the five years he played with the band. In 2010, he was far from perfect and lacked Jimmy's nuance, but seemed up to the task, and like he could even fill Jimmy's shoes with enough time. Once the band started touring in 2011, however, he looked like he'd aged 10 years, and made more and more obvious mistakes. All-in-all, it seemed to work out for everyone. The 2010-2014 band ending seemed to be Corgan's first step towards realizing he needed James and Jimmy back. It sucks that Billy has said some pissy things about Mike, but he certainly hasn't insulted him in the way that he did James or his Zwan band mates (or even Melissa as of late). He's got some crazy war stories to tell, and will always be able to show people Smashing Pumpkins on his resume. |
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04-29-2019, 01:20 AM | #82 |
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Would do it for anybody, but would VERY gladly do it for my Siddhartha sales tracking co-accountant:
https://we.tl/t-EDEkKPfH9s |
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04-29-2019, 01:57 PM | #83 | |
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Pretty amusing how BC trashes Millennials because of his experience working with Mike Byrne but has absolutely no problem getting along and playing with Jack Bates (29, same age) |
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04-29-2019, 10:41 PM | #84 |
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Jack Bates is the kind of guy you can enjoy a beer with at the pub though whereas Mike Byrne is Stewart from Beavis and Butthead.
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04-30-2019, 12:30 AM | #85 |
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thank you for that very quintessentially fuzzy post, it will go very nicely with the collection
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04-30-2019, 01:14 AM | #86 |
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It's true though.
It's like, "That Jack Bates guy is a good bloke. Interesting young man, fun to have a beer with" and then it's like: "Fuck, there's Mike Byrne coming over to us. Guy is fucking annoying, man. He's just gonna ramble on about his 'Fortnight' adventures the whole night" |
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04-30-2019, 04:05 AM | #87 |
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Jack is a real man, being interested in sport.
And he doesn't need his mom to remind to congrulate for his birthday, publicly bullying Billy for just having been late. |
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04-30-2019, 05:50 AM | #88 |
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04-30-2019, 08:55 AM | #89 | |
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04-30-2019, 11:42 AM | #90 |
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LOL:
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