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06-11-2002, 11:18 AM | #121 | |
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06-11-2002, 11:20 AM | #123 | |
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06-11-2002, 11:22 AM | #124 | |
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06-11-2002, 11:23 AM | #125 | |
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no seriously, all i'm saying is that although two wrongs don't make a right, retribution is very human |
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06-11-2002, 11:24 AM | #126 | |
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I fully believe that the actions taken by the U.S. after 9/11 were and are appropriate. If you want to argue from a "law" perspective, in regards to the "war on terrorism", the U.S. has obeyed every law and precedent. ------------------ ~*~Samantha~*~ http://homepages.nyu.edu/~sag249/sigankle.jpg |
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06-11-2002, 11:28 AM | #127 | |
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correct? |
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06-11-2002, 11:28 AM | #128 | |
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The reason we attacked Afghanistan and not done something else was because the 9/11 attacks were considered an "act of war" by both the U.S. and other UN nations. We then went "to war". ------------------ ~*~Samantha~*~ http://homepages.nyu.edu/~sag249/sigankle.jpg |
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06-11-2002, 11:31 AM | #129 | |
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I disapprove of war. But, when attacked in such a manner and when threats of more attacks keep on coming...is there something else besides war? Just responding to your comment that the U.S. disobeys international law... Yes, true. I was simply pointing out that it is basically the U.S. who creates the "international law"...hence why perhaps the U.S. does as it wants sometimes. ------------------ ~*~Samantha~*~ http://homepages.nyu.edu/~sag249/sigankle.jpg [This message has been edited by BlueStar (edited 06-11-2002).] |
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06-11-2002, 11:32 AM | #130 | |
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You say Afghanistan wasn't an innocent country, yet a few posts earlier you're decrying the Taliban as an 'oppressive regime' and an 'un-recognized government.' Which is it? If you're going to bomb the civilians of a country, their government better actually be answerable to them, otherwise you're just making their lives even worse. |
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06-11-2002, 11:40 AM | #131 | |
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ANSWER: there isn't one |
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06-11-2002, 11:43 AM | #133 |
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the US does not solely make international law, but what it does do is continually flaunt it and the rest of the world is guilty of letting them get away it...
THIS is why people around the world dislike the US and THIS is the kind of mentality that makes people fly planes into buildings NOTE FOR STUPID PEOPLE: i did not say that i agree with people flying planes into buildings |
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06-11-2002, 11:43 AM | #134 | |
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And when it comes to the "war on terrorism", there was no changing of the law. The U.S. followed what had been laid down and approved of. ------------------ ~*~Samantha~*~ http://homepages.nyu.edu/~sag249/sigankle.jpg |
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06-11-2002, 11:43 AM | #135 | |
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06-11-2002, 11:45 AM | #136 | |
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06-11-2002, 11:48 AM | #137 |
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the death penalty analogy is a bad one anyway
a better one would be supposing that when a criminal is convicted of a crime he is put to death with a bunch of random people from his country... we'll call them "casualties of justice", how's that? [This message has been edited by scouse_dave (edited 06-11-2002).] |
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06-11-2002, 11:52 AM | #138 | |
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So were they casualties of war, or casualties of "war"? You seem to be throwing quotation marks around a lot, like you're not actually sure if there really was a war or not. And that's because you need to be unsure, to deem certain actions necessary, and to overlook other irregularities. Because a real war would mean adhering to certain conventions. |
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06-11-2002, 11:55 AM | #140 |
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Well then...what should the US have done/be doing?
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06-11-2002, 11:57 AM | #141 | |
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06-11-2002, 11:59 AM | #142 | |
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06-11-2002, 12:01 PM | #143 |
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how can the "prisoners" in a "war" not be "prisoners of war"?
if the current definition of "prisoner of war" according to the Geneva Convention doesn't ******* this 'new' kind of prisoner, surely it should be ammended... we could let an american change it. they like changing laws... |
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06-11-2002, 12:03 PM | #144 | ||
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06-11-2002, 12:07 PM | #145 | |
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06-11-2002, 12:09 PM | #147 | |
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The U.S. views it as a war. The countries that are supporting the U.S. view it as a war. ------------------ ~*~Samantha~*~ http://homepages.nyu.edu/~sag249/sigankle.jpg [This message has been edited by BlueStar (edited 06-11-2002).] |
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06-11-2002, 12:10 PM | #148 |
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yes, you said that before BlueStar
i'm asking you why the US doesn't now try to change the Geneva convention for the new form of prisoners... |
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06-11-2002, 12:11 PM | #149 | |
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06-11-2002, 12:13 PM | #150 | |
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And, generally, things like that are changed after the war is over. The Geneva Convention wasn't created during a war, it was created after. ------------------ ~*~Samantha~*~ http://homepages.nyu.edu/~sag249/sigankle.jpg |
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