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06-09-2020, 12:50 PM | #61 | |
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There are the sincere ones who genuinely think that free markets and competition with lift all boats and give everyone a fair chance and improve human welfare and allow everyone to rise to the top. I think they are naive and I don't agree with them, but they are generally okay people. I respect them more than I do traditional conservatives, because at least when they say they want the government out of their lives, they actually mean it, and don't make exceptions for "but I still want the government to tell me who I can marry and to throw me in jail for putting the big no-no substances into my body and to have an interest in promoting one religion over others." The other camp of libertarians are the ones who aren't under the illusion that capitalism is in the best interest of everybody, but don't care, because "fuck the poor, fuck minorities, fuck women; I've got mine, Jack." A lot of them are closet fascists who, despite thinking that the government should be kept out of markets, still want the government to strictly regulate immigration as a form of trade barrier on cheap labour, because if brown people are willing to work harder for less money, then the government should step in to protect less competitive whites. They tend to embrace shades of cultural- and ethno-nationalism that pretty smoothly greases their slide through the libertarianism-to-fascism-pipeline. And the next thing you know, they have gone from regurgitating Ayn Rand to Tweeting about how female popstars need to stop wasting their eggs and instead stay at home and start making babies before the browns and blacks start outbreeding the whites. |
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06-09-2020, 01:52 PM | #62 |
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I wanna know Mark McGrath's thoughts on the issues. You know, mr. racist jive hands while I introduce a Japanese member to sing Blew Away himself
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06-09-2020, 01:58 PM | #63 | |
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06-09-2020, 02:09 PM | #64 | |
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the official Libertarian Platform is pro-immigration but never have I talked to a Libertarian who doesn't suddenly go full Law and Order when it comes to brown people entering the country |
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06-09-2020, 02:13 PM | #65 |
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capital L as an ideology in The States (idk about Canada) is another word for some fucked up Randian worldview
but libertarian as a tradition really means a type of socialist |
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06-09-2020, 02:23 PM | #66 | |
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You don't even support the spirit of the 2nd Amendment in the US, or else you would be furious that white people are allowed to walk into town with a bazooka while black kids are killed for cosplaying as a samurai outside. You can think yourself a freedom lover all you want, but face it - when push comes to shove, you will side with white supremacy, in America, Brazil and anywhere else. It's a pathetic sleight of hand, and no one is buying it. |
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06-09-2020, 02:23 PM | #67 |
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post-punk is really a metal sub-sub-genre
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06-09-2020, 02:28 PM | #68 |
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lol metal
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06-09-2020, 02:45 PM | #69 | |
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I don't give a shit about either at this point, what I do give a shit about is equating BLM and the KKK. What the problem with that remark is, you might wonder? That remark is where sharing your opinion ends and something else starts. What else could that be? You'll find that out, prerferably in silence, thanks! |
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06-09-2020, 02:55 PM | #70 |
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so
anyone else find the band's silence on the recent civil rights abuses a bit weird? |
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06-09-2020, 02:56 PM | #71 |
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can we please also ban elphenour for loling at metal?
thank u |
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06-09-2020, 03:01 PM | #72 |
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you're right, there's absolutely nothing funny about metal
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06-09-2020, 03:01 PM | #73 |
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I'm just minding my own buiz listening to Big Star
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06-09-2020, 03:03 PM | #74 |
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metal is so lol it makes anyone who plays the guitar now kinda lol
the dream is over, music is over |
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06-09-2020, 03:06 PM | #75 |
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bullfucking shit it is. boris are just hitting their second plateau. deny that and GET BANNED.
Ram! You know what to do. |
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06-09-2020, 03:06 PM | #76 | |
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06-09-2020, 03:07 PM | #77 |
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06-09-2020, 03:07 PM | #78 |
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insert that meme pic of the anime guy holding the butterfly labelled "books" saying "is this nihilism?"
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06-09-2020, 03:07 PM | #79 |
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06-09-2020, 03:21 PM | #80 | |
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Ermm .... no. Those two are the same one |
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06-09-2020, 03:52 PM | #81 |
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You're right. Nobody who disagrees with us economically has ever been an okay person.
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06-09-2020, 04:26 PM | #82 | |
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I'm am not an AnCap tho, I consider myself more of a "classical liberal" highly influenced by Hayek and Milton Friedman, which means I still believe it's ok if the government takes part in the educational system, health care and public security (while I'm still against government monopolies). I'm a pro-choice, I support same-sex marriage, LGBTQ+ adoption, drug liberalisation, and free movement. What else is left there? I'm also a vegan, for the exact same reasons. Still, I get called a fucking fascist. You know how ridiculous that sound, specially when one of the mods support that kind of message and threats to ban me instead? |
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06-09-2020, 04:41 PM | #83 |
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I haven't interacted with you much and know nothing about your political opinions beyond what's been shared in this thread, but equating either BLM or "social justice warriors" more broadly to the KKK is false equivalence that muddies the waters of debate in a way that only really serves the far right.
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06-09-2020, 04:54 PM | #84 |
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I agree. I already mocked him for that. It’s a terrible thing to say. I get the point he and Billy are trying to make it but the analogy is so farcical, insensitive and offensive it just makes them sound like at best racially insensitive jackasses. My point was people shouldn’t be censored for their political views. Demonized was a poor choice of words, as I frequently demonize peoole for their political views.
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06-09-2020, 06:15 PM | #85 | |
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Now you can still disagree with him about that, but those two quotes are quite different, aren't they? |
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06-09-2020, 06:59 PM | #86 |
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06-09-2020, 07:06 PM | #87 |
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can't tell if this dude's back-trackin' by way of hamfisted Corgan/Jones points or actually didn't see the all-caps BLM in pp's original post
what it DO, Forgotten Chile??? |
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06-09-2020, 07:25 PM | #88 | |
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06-09-2020, 07:27 PM | #89 | |
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I honestly didn't notice it. One of the reasons why I didn't notice it was because PP has been misquoting Billy on that one for years now and, even tho people pointed that out, PP ignores them and keep saying "Billy compared BLM to KKK". And I can prove it: Last edited by Forgotten Child : 06-09-2020 at 07:51 PM. |
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06-09-2020, 07:31 PM | #90 |
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That makes Billy’s quote better but still not exactly good. Although I believe George Carlin said political correctness is fascism masquerading as politeness and he wasn’t what anyone could possibly call right wing. Like I said I agree with Billy’s point that there are many people who are trying to censor freedom of speech, but he used such an awful analogy that it just made him look like a shitty person. It didn’t help that he said it while hanging out with Alex Jones, who might well have some sympathies towards actual fascism.
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