The Dark Knight Rises

[Trotskilicious]

ShUT THE FUCK UP

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Oh well, of course it's much more likely, that the 20 Illuminati families, who are devoted to the occult and suck Lucipher's dick, pulled this off - hired hitmen with face transplant and all. I still believe the Jews are behind it though.

[The Omega Concern]

originally posted by Trotskilicious:

tell me more about the ncr ranger

Bourne type assassin fully programmed to kick some serious ass. Think about those guys who were chasing Jason Bourne in those movies. They had the same skill set but one was drugged and mind controlled and forced into memory loss. James Holmes doesn't appear to have that skillset in his background, but he has serious skills and his field of study makes him prime MK material.

Also:

Treadstone = MKUltra


Time shifting...memory loss..."temporal illusions"...I'll be damned if James Holmes isn't emulating the foggy details of memory that the Bourne character experienced in the film. He either has amnesia or is acting out amnesia. With all the shiftiness of the portrayal of the shootings, I'm leaning towards drugged. Not sure about this scopoline deal or whatever, but it is one explanation for his actions pre and post shooting.

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Not possible. Robert Ludlum died in 2001.

[The Omega Concern]

Oh well, of course it's much more likely, that the 20 Illuminati families, who are devoted to the occult and suck Lucipher's dick, pulled this off - hired hitmen with face transplant and all. I still believe the Jews are behind it though.

From a Rothschilds to a President to the red phone, the one with the direct line to the Presidential hit squad. It's not like its gotta go through a million channels. And it wouldn't even have to happen the way I described (though with this Prez and Fast and Furious, its certainly plausible).

There's a flow chart to everything. You asked about motive and one was a UN gun-ban which ties into long known efforts to disarm the populace.

The other is the intriguing story of his father. That one seems clearer to me as motive because it ties directly to the alleged shooter with a one degree removal from him to the mother of all financial scandals and its exposure.

Of course the western anglophile banking elite would want to derail that at any cost and would have the means to pull a stunt like this off, considering their (attempted) control of this narrative through their mouthpieces at all the news outlets reading essentially the 'Lone-gunmen' script.

The FBI sure as hell looks suspicious with that package. I mean, its right in front of your face that that thing is planted, but, nary a question about it anywhere in the mainstream. That alone should give pause to anyone with a skeptical bone in their body.

[Trotskilicious]

you still don't know what the phrase temporal illusion means

[Trotskilicious]

it's really not that mysterious, it's basically a phrase that means "why does time feel different sometimes?"

fucking christ

[Trotskilicious]

also i sent that page to bethesda Re: copyright infringement. hopefully they'll use their red phones and flow charts to put a stop to using stuff from fallout new vegas and pretending like it's real

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

This whole kidnap-drugged thing is quite extreme to consider. But, as you said 85, how can a guy go on that drug and not lose it. Well, he did. The two months prior to the event at the theater was a clear downward spiral. Add that to the tangential issue of the mystery roommates and the multiple shooters theory gains a little traction on the lone-gunmen one.

How do you know he was drugged? "He did"? Maybe he was on a downward spiral because of other drugs, or not related to drugs at all. Maybe he was displaying signs of mania or schizophrenia. How do we know? Maybe he just had a bad day or two and people in public saw him? How do you *know* he was drugged/on drugs? I have trouble believing he was on anticholinergic drugs in high doses for weeks without anyone realizing something was seriously wrong. How did he fucking walk or even speak semi-coherently? Drive? Take a bus? ANYTHING?

[The Omega Concern]

All fair questions and assumptions but it doesn't clear any of the fuzzy details which are everywhere if you look. You want to believe the teleprompter readers, knock yourself out. They are essentially arms for the Newspeak of the day.

Earlier on in this thread was it you or someone else talking about SOP for the cops to NOT rule out another shooter or accomplice, which was an initial report from the police in the aftermath of the shooting. But even at that point, the lone-gunmen meme was being established by the network news and papers and its like groupthink -- all inquiries into any other possibility someone other than Holmes is involved is considered extreme, when it certainly wasn't by the police and rightfully so.

[Order 66]

you need to get laid even worse than i do

[The Omega Concern]

originally posted by Trotskilicious:

it's really not that mysterious, it's basically a phrase that means "why does time feel different sometimes?"

fucking christ

It's not a phrase its a field of study and the National Institute of Health doesn't give out prestigious grants to elite academics to get to the understanding of a phrase.

You. Are. Out. Of. Your. League.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

All fair questions and assumptions but it doesn't clear any of the fuzzy details which are everywhere if you look. You want to believe the teleprompter readers, knock yourself out. They are essentially arms for the Newspeak of the day.

Earlier on in this thread was it you or someone else talking about SOP for the cops to NOT rule out another shooter or accomplice, which was an initial report from the police in the aftermath of the shooting. But even at that point, the lone-gunmen meme was being established by the network news and papers and its like groupthink -- all inquiries into any other possibility someone other than Holmes is involved is considered extreme, when it certainly wasn't by the police and rightfully so.

I don't give a shit about the media. It simply doesn't make sense that someone could be drugged with those kinds of drugs for that long and be out in public without inadvertently advertizing that fact to the world extremely clearly.

As for your second paragraph, that wasn't me. Look - I think he probably did it at least sort of like is being reported, but even if he didn't, your scopolamine theory is total bullshit. Maybe most people don't understand anti-cholonergic drugs, but for those who do it's quite clear someone thought it sounded scary and included it to make it interesting or something like that.

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

It's not a phrase its a field of study and the National Institute of Health doesn't give out prestigious grants to elite academics to get to the understanding of a phrase.

You. Are. Out. Of. Your. League.

no shit it's not about understanding the phrase. re-read his post. he's not saying it's about understanding a phrase, just that that field of study itself is not so esoteric as you apparently think it is.

[Trotskilicious]

well the fact that he doesn't understand the term is indicative that he doesn't understand anything about it at all

i always like it when he gets mad enough to condescend to me

[reprise85]

yeah it got a real LOL from me

You. Are. Out. Of. Your. League. Ermahgerd!

[reprise85]

omega concern is a troll right

i mean he doesn't even understand his own theories... so...

[cocksure]

that's typical. a certain degree of mystery is built into all conspiracy theories, so that when some data doesn't match, you can always say "well it's all shady and unclear and full of lies and deceit anyway"

[Deep_Throat]

The best lies are hidden between two truths.

[yo soy el mejor]

Originally Posted by Order 66

you need to get laid even worse than i do

oh snap.

[Starla]

I was watching Deep Impact last night and realized that Morgan Freeman predicted Obama's presidency! The mission that was to knock the meteor off it's collision course was called "the messiah".

[Trotskilicious]

there was a black prez in 24 too, i actually do think presenting women & minorities as the president in media actually encourages progress in a small way. I guess it establishes a black man in an archetypical white man job and some people start to adjust their definitions of what the president is and should look like.

but tommy carcetti on the hbo television program "the wire" is actually total obama prophesy. White candidate in a black city (as opposed to the black candidate in a white country). Starts off all positive and hope and change and blah blah and then turns into politricks as usual after he wins office.

[Tchocky]

Morgan Freeman is one of those actors filmmakers use to give bad movies instant credibility.

[Catherine Wheel]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Morgan Freeman is one of those actors filmmakers use to give bad movies instant credibility.

also he often plays these types

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_negro

The Magical Negro, or magical black friend, is a supporting stock character in American cinema who is portrayed coming to the aid of a film's white protagonists.[1] These characters, who often possess special insight or mystical powers, have been a long tradition in American fiction.[2]

The Magical Negro is typically but not always "in some way outwardly or inwardly disabled, either by discrimination, disability or social constraint," often a janitor or prisoner.[6] He has no past; he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist.[7][8] He usually has some sort of magical power, "rather vaguely defined but not the sort of thing one typically encounters."[7] He is patient and wise, often dispensing various words of wisdom, and is "closer to the earth."[4]

[Starla]

wtf@this witness/troll 4:15

[Starla]

I'm going to watch every single x files, from the first season to the end. I swear I will find the answer to all of this somehow and I will not rest until I get to the bottom of this shit!

[reprise85]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Starla again.

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by Starla

wtf@this witness/troll 4:15

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1. White terrorists are called "gunmen". What does that even mean? A person with a gun ? Wouldn’t that be, like, everyone in the US? Other terrorists are called, like, “terrorists.”
2. White terrorists are “troubled loners.” Other terrorists are always suspected of being part of a global plot, even when they are obviously troubled loners.
3. Doing a study on the danger of white terrorists at the Department of Homeland Security will get you sidelined by angry white Congressmen. Doing studies on other kinds of terrorists is a guaranteed promotion.
4. The family of a white terrorist is interviewed, weeping as they wonder where he went wrong. The families of other terrorists are almost never interviewed.
5. White terrorists are part of a “fringe.” Other terrorists are apparently mainstream.
6. White terrorists are random events, like tornadoes. Other terrorists are long-running conspiracies.
7. White terrorists are never called “white.” But other terrorists are given ethnic affiliations.
8. Nobody thinks white terrorists are typical of white people. But other terrorists are considered paragons of their societies.
9. White terrorists are alcoholics, addicts or mentally ill. Other terrorists are apparently clean -living and perfectly sane.
10. There is nothing you can do about white terrorists. Gun control won’t stop them. No policy you could make, no government program, could possibly have an impact on them. But hundreds of billions of dollars must be spent on police and on the Department of Defense, and on TSA, which must virtually strip search 60 million people a year, to deal with other terrorists.

(Source: juancole.com)

[Order 66]

at least "white terrorists" don't go around killing for asinine reasons. i'm not absolving them of their crimes but there's some logic and motive behind it unlike with real terrorists