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Old 04-02-2018, 10:08 PM   #1231
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The Perfect video is such a poor attempt at recreating the 1979 video.

 
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:32 AM   #1232
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Yeah, it's a typical sell out move... Band scores a huge surprise hit, next album has a direct rip-off of it issued as a single. Reminds me of Sugar Ray with Fly

 
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Old 04-03-2018, 03:11 AM   #1233
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It's a Perfect Sequel...

 
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Old 04-03-2018, 03:17 AM   #1234
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It's a perfect new confirmation:

Marilyn Manson Bandmate Reveals Why He Almost Punched ‘Piece of Shit’ Billy Corgan
https://www.alternativenation.net/ma...-billy-corgan/



Marilyn Manson’s former keyboardist Madonna Wayne Gacy (aka Pogo) ripped Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan in a series of new Facebook comments.

He called the legendary singer and guitarist a ‘piece of s*** arrogant delusional a****** called Billy Corgan.’

He added, “Billy Corgan, words do not suffice for his arrogance and downright insanity without the abuse of drugs for an excuse.”

“You saw how Brian [Warner, better known as Marilyn Manson] and Jordie [White, better known as Twiggy Ramirez] hung around Billy Corgan like some sort of Idol? I refuse that s***. In fact every time I met him he pissed me off, and I wanted to punch him in the f****** face.”

He also sarcastically quipped that he is a reptilian, and ‘on behalf of the reptilians in the music business everywhere’ he wished misfortune on Corgan for being ‘the heretic he is.’

 
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Old 04-03-2018, 03:50 AM   #1235
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Wowzers!

 
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Old 04-03-2018, 09:57 AM   #1236
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Pogo is crazy but that was awesome.

 
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Old 04-03-2018, 09:25 PM   #1237
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did manson idolize billy or billy idolize manson? can we stick to one story?

I thought it was billy that idolized manson for his ability to go full glam. Billy only flirted with a little "god is empty just like me", while manson went full hog "I'm the antichrist". Manson's image/message had a deeper impact with less effort - I'm sure billy was always jealous.

even with billy doing "machina the machines of GOD" was loose enough to allow general fans to ignore the 'christian' elements. It couldn't be ignored in Manson. knowwhatI'msaying?


at the end of the day they're both just 'rock stars' trying to make a buck, so whatever. neither will ever be bowie or ozzy or kiss.

 
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:04 PM   #1238
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haha the last bit is epic. Gotta love Pogo for telling it like it is

 
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:24 PM   #1239
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Billy and Manson agreed to represent both ends of the religious spectrum.

 
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Old 04-04-2018, 12:32 AM   #1240
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Billy exploring once more his female side too...


 
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Old 04-04-2018, 01:09 PM   #1241
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Old 04-04-2018, 01:32 PM   #1242
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Old 04-04-2018, 06:36 PM   #1243
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Billy - what a low level effort. ugh.

 
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Old 04-04-2018, 08:00 PM   #1244
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neither will ever be bowie or ozzy or kiss.
I'd say Bill's well on the path to becoming Gene Simmons, really

 
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:07 PM   #1245
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I'd say Bill's well on the path to becoming Gene Simmons, really
Gene Simmons knows how to sell stuff, so nope.

 
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:22 PM   #1246
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Wouldn't astonish me now, if it's more Billy Corgan's guilt than of the record company that the release of the reissue of Machina is on hold since years...

 
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:19 PM   #1247
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Gene Simmons knows how to sell stuff, so nope.
Did he actually ever manage to get anyone to pay him 50k to bring a $2000 safe full of crap to their house or what?

Because people actually bought Siddhartha. Not a lot of people, but a few. And Bill actually convinced someone to pay for his lunch once.

 
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Old 04-05-2018, 03:09 AM   #1248
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Not even all the 672 "Sad Machines" -the most loyal SP-fans?- had bought Siddartha...

 
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:53 AM   #1249
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Not even all the 672 "Sad Machines" -the most loyal SP-fans?- had bought Siddartha...

No Monte unboxing video...

 
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Old 04-05-2018, 09:02 AM   #1250
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Monte's root canal excuses.
It's always the greedy dentist...

https://askthedentist.com/how-to-not...t-the-dentist/

 
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Old 04-06-2018, 02:03 AM   #1251
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“I don’t know if Billy ever did drugs to be honest. I know Darcy did, and who doesn’t find crack fun? But ultimately, Billy is a piece of s***, and she was a decent human being. Drugs are irrelevant to the question. Again, as stated previously, I think Billy Corgan would have a bigger excuse for being an arsehole if he was a drug addict like Brian.”
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Ky Zhoul commented, “I admire what a truth based and common sense man you are.. Never Change, brother… and poor D’Arcy… he knows that without her nobody gives a shit about a ANOTHER half assed Pumpkins reunion.”

Pogo responded, “She’s a good person.”

“Just to be clear, I’m not loving your post because I’m somehow commonsensical or truthful… I just think he f***** over D’Arcy.”
https://www.alternativenation.net/90...fd-over-darcy/

 
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Old 04-06-2018, 07:59 AM   #1252
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BUTTCANNON STRIKES AGAIN

WHAT A MAN!

 
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:02 AM   #1253
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billy did all the drugs

 
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:06 AM   #1254
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Billy tried at least LSD in the early days with his bandmates. And mushrooms...

 
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:07 AM   #1255
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he talked about eating pot edibles. he talked about taking "blue pills" with manson - presumably opiates or benzos. he was visibly intoxicated in many photos. referred to speed a lot and admitted to taking mdma a lot during adore/machina.

 
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:15 AM   #1256
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Billy got the title for “33” when he ate 33 peyote buttons

 
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:24 AM   #1257
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All the Pumpkins should be inforced by Live Nation to do a drug test, before feeling too shiny and oh so bright on tour.

 
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Old 04-06-2018, 10:24 AM   #1258
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this thread just keeps on floating like a nice piece of shit in the swimming pool.

ok guys you can drop it now, yes d'arcy said some shit and it was awesome, but this thread is over. please evacuate to the nearest exit.

 
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Old 04-06-2018, 10:41 AM   #1259
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Gene Simmons knows how to sell stuff, so nope.
BUSINESSES MODEL
  • at the end of the day
  • the modern fan
  • paradigm shift
  • vis a vis

 
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Old 04-07-2018, 08:55 AM   #1260
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This comment was also on Pogo's Facebook site. I had expected the opposite. You can't give 100% catching a virus by a bad handshake!

Krista McAulay
I ran into William Patrick (LO-fucking-L) in Hollywood recently, and wow, he did not give two shits that I was a longtime fan of the music. He refused to shake my hand saying he doesn't shake hands when he's not on tour. All I could think was that a man that dated Tila Tequila was afraid to touch my hand?!?




 
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