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Old 03-17-2018, 08:19 AM   #1
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Default What's the point of all this negativity?

Everywhere you look there's really mean comments about the band, especially towards Billy, and there's very little constructive criticism, by very few people. I understand that we can't be happy about everything that has happened with this band but what I'm referring to is the really mean nasty destructive comments. That says more about you than it does about Billy and the rest of the people who have been part of the band. How does this particularly help you become a better person? Seriously, what's the point of all this negativity?

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:25 AM   #2
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:26 AM   #3
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How does this particularly help you become a better person? Seriously, what's the point of all this negativity?

...ask Billy and Mancow.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:27 AM   #4
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we get more enjoyment out of complaining than from the music

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:28 AM   #5
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i'm not here to become a better person?

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:28 AM   #6
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but what I'm referring to is the really mean nasty destructive comments.
oh yea, I too wondered what the point is of gaslighting a former band mate, ridiculing her and topping it off with "guess this battered rockstar" with his buddy mancow. I keep wondering... I stopped wondering what the point is of defending the kkk, though. you know, that sort of negativity I really can't deal with.

does it help you to become a better person if you pretend someone isn't a sociopathic asshole?

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:34 AM   #7
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If sunshine and rainbows were what they wanted they'd just rehash the old Zwan graphics. Pumpkins thrived on drama and negativity, and I'll be damned if we forget that

i love this band but fuck this band but i love this band but fuck this band

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:45 AM   #8
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what negativity?

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 09:12 AM   #9
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/t...s-really-mean/

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 09:22 AM   #10
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...and there's very little constructive criticism, by very few people.
Oh yeah, historically, if there's one thing Billy has been able to maturely take into consideration and act upon to enrich his life, it's constructive criticism.

*fart noise*

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 09:33 AM   #11
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oh yea, I too wondered what the point is of gaslighting a former band mate, ridiculing her and topping it off with "guess this battered rockstar" with his buddy mancow. I keep wondering... I stopped wondering what the point is of defending the kkk, though. you know, that sort of negativity I really can't deal with.

does it help you to become a better person if you pretend someone isn't a sociopathic asshole?
Oh JFC then why don't you tell us more about your decision to stop defending the KKK? You know since a band you like and the KKK draw sooooo many parallels with each other.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 09:39 AM   #12
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Fuck me, I must have missed Alternative Nation's 3 part series cover story on the KKK and how some of the members were gaslighted into staying in the group.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 09:41 AM   #13
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and there's very little constructive criticism, by very few people.

>>>

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At a conference in London, the outspoken manager touched on Madonna, his worst moments ("three deaths and a missing arm") and why Billy Corgan is credited for Q Prime's "no arseholes" policy.

He's one of the most successful, not to mention forthright music managers in the world today, so it was always likely that sparks were going to fly when Q Prime's Peter Mensch sat down for an in-depth discussion at the close of the 30th International Live Music Conference (ILMC), held in London last week.
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Working with The Smashing Pumpkins

We have a no arseholes rule at Q Prime. It's because of Billy Corgan. He was a very difficult person to work with. He's a really talented guy, just doesn't want to listen to anybody's advice -- at least as far as I could tell.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/b...ones-interview

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:02 AM   #14
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Everywhere you look there's really mean comments about the band, especially towards Billy, and there's very little constructive criticism, by very few people. I understand that we can't be happy about everything that has happened with this band but what I'm referring to is the really mean nasty destructive comments. That says more about you than it does about Billy and the rest of the people who have been part of the band. How does this particularly help you become a better person? Seriously, what's the point of all this negativity?
The man has threatened me with legal action numerous times.

Let's not for a second pretend Billy is a good person.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:16 AM   #15
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Damn, for real? For what? (i accept PMs)

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:24 AM   #16
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what you call negativity, others call objective reality. some of us are butthurt, sure, but there is some good in pointing out how billydazzled constantly goes against his word, shits on friendships, etc. this is one place on the internet that doesn't censor, so users can get it all out. it may seem overly negative by contrast, but i'd ask sad machines what's with all the dick sucking

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:25 AM   #17
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Oh JFC then why don't you tell us more about your decision to stop defending the KKK? You know since a band you like and the KKK draw sooooo many parallels with each other.
can you read? Corgan went on about the kkk, and not once, but in several interviews.

which is what I thought of when someone "wonders" why people give him "negativity" and "nasty comments" when he is such a great guy that apparently doesn't deserve criticism.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...e-warriors-kkk

as for what you missed about a summary on gaslighting d'arcy - pitchfork, amongst 20 other outlets, actually covered it. you might find half a dozen threads here too, you sad little troll.

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what you call negativity, others call objective reality.
exactly.

that is one part, if you haven't noticed, people discuss the actual music, too. and if it's horseshit lova lova, oh dear god, guess what, it's fine to call an audio-turd an audio-turd.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:31 AM   #18
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which is what I thought of when someone "wonders" why people give him "negativity" and "nasty comments" when he is such a great guy that apparently doesn't deserve criticism.

It reminds me of an abusive relationship where people defend the abuser and blame the victim for being negative.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:33 AM   #19
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that is Sp "fandom" in a nutshell though, isn't it.

took me only 20 years to actually stop defending that person altogether. to myself, for the most part. as in I was very reluctant to accept that someone who made music that meant too much to me is actually a garbage person. some are slower than others...

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:54 AM   #20
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Come back with a different avatar and you'll get the answers.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:56 AM   #21
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what negativity?

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:13 AM   #22
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It's actually only on Netphoria where this negativity prevails. That's why I only pop in now and again. I am a member of a number of other fan groups online and in the real world and in those groups it is for the most part just real love for the band and their music. Past and present.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:45 AM   #23
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"Real love" for the band except for D'arcy this present year...

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 12:18 PM   #24
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Lol @ ppl who know nothing about netphoria, contribute nothing, share nothing worth reading, coming on here to ask us to justify ourselves

Fuck you

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 12:24 PM   #25
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Old 03-17-2018, 12:47 PM   #26
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lol @ ppl thinking netphoria 2018 is negative.

ya'll should've been here 15 years ago. shit got mellow.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 01:13 PM   #27
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Lol @ ppl who know nothing about netphoria, contribute nothing, share nothing worth reading, coming on here to ask us to justify ourselves

Fuck you
So negative.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 02:54 PM   #28
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:41 PM   #29
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Billy looks really ugly as a bald man.

he should grow out his hair or get plugs - I think he can afford it.

 
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Old 03-17-2018, 06:33 PM   #30
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So negative.
That says more about you than it does about me and the rest of the people who have been part of the board. How does this post particularly help you become a better person? Seriously, what's the point of all the FlamingGlobes?

Please explain/justify asap for the urgent edification of both myself and TheAeroplane, thx

 
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