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Old 02-13-2018, 08:34 PM   #61
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it would be amazing to see a group interview with D'arcy, Melissa, Ginger and Nicole.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:36 PM   #62
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yes, that thought crossed my mind yesterday. Add Paz.

I guess Nicole is not involved with the Women in Rock thing any more, but that would be one really interesting panel for me: the ladies of SP/Zwan on one round table.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:36 PM   #63
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:36 PM   #64
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:37 PM   #65
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you can't, at least I can't either, but I don't need to respect a person by any means in 2018 to still enjoy music they made a long time ago. otherwise I'd be shit out of luck with my music taste.
Yeah man, it had nothing to do with the music, I love all of the 90s work like I said earlier. I was generally talking about human character and spirit. I feel like this happening has drained the life of the band for me. I'll never stop listening to the music though, that's kind of a separate entity.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:37 PM   #66
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also Eric Remschnieder lives in my town and he's told me some wild stories about Billy and his insecurity. Billy shut out Eric when he recorded Let it come down with james, and received a call from Billy in which he basically said "why are you playing with that guy? he hasn't got an original bone in his body!"

lines up with D'arcy's accusations of insecurity.
That is insane. Any more you can share?

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:39 PM   #67
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She is mean spirited, possibly a drug addict.

Bill should get a MRI, possibly has a brain tumor.

That is just mean.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:39 PM   #68
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Whew! What a killer interview! fuck man... She was really down for this reunion... What a buzz kill.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:41 PM   #69
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I can't remember a lot. He did say that Billy is a genius, but extremely difficult. Darcy was the coolest person of that bunch.

I'll post as I remember, but I talked to him two years ago last. He seems a bit out of touch with reality too but a nice guy.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:41 PM   #70
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since Belly is broke due to buying every shit wrestling dumpster he was able to find (and then running it into the ground)
This explains a lot, huh.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:42 PM   #71
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Do you think the Pumpkins camp is pissed.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:45 PM   #72
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Do you think the Pumpkins camp is pissed.
This is more press for the tour than $ can buy.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:46 PM   #73
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it would be amazing to see a group interview with D'arcy, Melissa, Ginger and Nicole.
Buttcannon would enjoy this.

He'd prefer it to be in person.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:47 PM   #74
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Buttcannon would enjoy this.

He'd prefer it to be in person.
My moneys on you being Buttcannon tho.

You always link the Alternative Nation articles and their tweets first. Always. Coincidence?

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:47 PM   #75
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I read it twice. I still feel like there is a 20% chance she is on the freaking tour.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:49 PM   #76
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My moneys on you being Buttcannon tho.

You always link the Alternative Nation articles and their tweets first. Always. Coincidence?
I got my head up Buttcannon's buttcannon.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:49 PM   #77
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To be honest, Darcy sounds too much like Billy, and that's probably why they clash.

"I'm healthier than any of them "

"my feelings were a little bit hurt because he did the solo album tour, and he didn’t tell me when it started".= James negotiated a solo album and didn't consult me.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:50 PM   #78
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So Billy needs the cash eh? Definitely explains why they're pushing the nostalgia factor so hard with the promotion... I was surprised Billy would allow that, but it all makes sense now.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:50 PM   #79
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I read it twice. I still feel like there is a 20% chance she is on the freaking tour.
There's no fucking way. She denounced him, the tour, even the Rick Rubin collaboration.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:52 PM   #80
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even if there's some half truths here, this reads like she's finally getting pay back for the years she suffered being associated with this man and working as a smashing pumpkin. She deserves to tell her side of the story and Billy deserves this too. "Mean spirited drug addict?" Finally she gets her say.

Also, I knew we were in trouble here when he said on Stern "I apologized to darcy for being a dick and she said i had to be that way because I'm such a great song writer." bitch, please.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:53 PM   #81
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To be honest, Darcy sounds too much like Billy, and that's probably why they clash.

"I'm healthier than any of them "

"my feelings were a little bit hurt because he did the solo album tour, and he didnít tell me when it started".= James negotiated a solo album and didn't consult me.
Totally agree, her and Bill are cut from the same cloth. She boasts about how she does all this stuff, is in top physical form, randomly moved to Texas, is a trained classical musician, etc.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:55 PM   #82
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There's no fucking way. She denounced him, the tour, even the Rick Rubin collaboration.
I know but still.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:59 PM   #83
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the way she characterizes billy is very, very accurate. he's a deplorable human being

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:01 PM   #84
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What a time to be alive and SP fans my friends. Fuckin' wowieeee

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:01 PM   #85
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all that shit about never calling anyone directly,

and never fucking coming out with it, and instead always expressing himself through poetic ambiguity and double speak,

and how he demands the world of others but gives nothing in return.

it's a miracle the original run of the band lasted that long tbh

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:02 PM   #86
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Trump support confirmed too. He'll probably respond to D'arcy on INFOWARS later this week

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:05 PM   #87
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Fuck Billy Corgan. For years, he has been gaslighting his fans into thinking he’s a functional human being who cares about creating music with integrity and treats the people around him with respect. It’s all been bullshit. Through all the scandals and shattered relationships and baffling public behavior, he has maintained a smokescreen of “ignore my bad behavior, I’m just purposely messing with the public’s perception of me as performance art.... I’m not the control freak egomaniac everyone says I am....everything is great in the band right now...it’s the other band members who were actually shitty people....” Thank god Darcy is the one person he’s worked with who actually has the balls to call him on this fucking shit publicly. I honestly find it validating. I’ve spent the last 20 years listening to Billy the politician try to manage his public image and convince us all that he’s really a good guy. I’ve half believed at times and fully believed it other times. It’s been an experience that makes me question my own logic. Classic narcissistic abuse, actually....just in the capacity of a celebrity to his fans. Less serious for sure. But equally insane. I’m done now. Fuck this piece of shit.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:06 PM   #88
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Celebrating 30 years of sadness...

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:07 PM   #89
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Wow.

Just wow.

Tour's over now. Sorry guys.

 
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:08 PM   #90
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all as i expected. classic narcissist

 
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