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Old 05-17-2019, 10:04 PM   #31
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sure they both suck. Robert Smith, on the other hand - still sounds great
maybe you can hit him on appearance, but he still has the "image" IMHO
its Fatrick Blotkin who has lost image and voice and feel and integrity
Come on man, Robert Smith looks like hell


 
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:07 PM   #32
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Who gives a fuck

Old news

Only new thing ive learned from this thread is that our dearest fuzz just loves himself a little ol band called falco
I only bring up Falco to illustrate the importance of a frontman having charisma. I don't know what it is with Corgan, but it's like he just can't pull it off and knows it so there's almost an insecure energy or something. Surely you guys understand what I'm getting at.

Falco is severely underrated though. Guy was way ahead of his time


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Old 05-17-2019, 10:22 PM   #33
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sure they both suck. Robert Smith, on the other hand - still sounds great
maybe you can hit him on appearance, but he still has the "image" IMHO
its Fatrick Blotkin who has lost image and voice and feel and integrity
When it comes to rock and roll and showbiz, LOOKS MATTER!

 
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:28 PM   #34
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He’s been playing most of those songs in drop tuning since 1996 you fucking moron.
Correct me if I'm wrong, turd burglar, but that performance of Cherub Rock sounds tuned down a full-step. But I could be wrong

Either way, anyone who knows anything about music knows that artists down-tune songs that are regularly in standard tuning when they're not able to hit the notes anymore... Corgan is downtuned and he STILL can't hit the notes. It's a little sad. It's not a presentation I could ever imagine paying hundreds of dollars to see.

Corgan's becoming like old man Ozzy. Listen to how downtuned this is now LOL


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Old 05-17-2019, 10:43 PM   #35
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Near the end they all are...


 
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Old 05-18-2019, 12:00 AM   #36
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Correct me if I'm wrong, turd burglar, but that performance of Cherub Rock sounds tuned down a full-step. But I could be wrong

Either way, anyone who knows anything about music knows that artists down-tune songs that are regularly in standard tuning when they're not able to hit the notes anymore... Corgan is downtuned and he STILL can't hit the notes. It's a little sad. It's not a presentation I could ever imagine paying hundreds of dollars to see.

Corgan's becoming like old man Ozzy. Listen to how downtuned this is now LOL

that is some twlight zone shit

sing along crazy train? ozzy would have killed himself twice

i mean it's ok, i'm glad things change. but damn

 
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Old 05-18-2019, 12:10 AM   #37
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Correct me if I'm wrong, turd burglar, but that performance of Cherub Rock sounds tuned down a full-step. But I could be wrong

Either way, anyone who knows anything about music knows that artists down-tune songs that are regularly in standard tuning when they're not able to hit the notes anymore... Corgan is downtuned and he STILL can't hit the notes. It's a little sad. It's not a presentation I could ever imagine paying hundreds of dollars to see.

Corgan's becoming like old man Ozzy. Listen to how downtuned this is now LOL

It’s tuned down a half step. Takes 2 mins to download a piano app, listen to the recording for 8 seconds, then hit E, Eb, D, etc., on the keyboard til you hear the tonic.

 
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Old 05-18-2019, 01:38 AM   #38
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When it comes to rock and roll and showbiz, LOOKS MATTER!
Good to know just how superficial and shallow you are

I've never given a shit one way or another about your posts but you've just convinced me you're everything everyone here says you are.

I'd go see The Cure 20 more times before I drop dead because Bob puts on 3+ hour shows and pours all he can into every performance. Don't give a shit how he looks.

Bill tries and for what it's worth he still puts on a way better show than many artists I could name and he's definitely better than he's been since 2007 or so. Depression 's a bitch.

 
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Old 05-18-2019, 01:59 AM   #39
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Old 05-18-2019, 02:45 AM   #40
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That cherub is inexcusably bad. A high school band would be loled off a talent show stage if they sounded like that. F-

 
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Old 05-18-2019, 02:45 AM   #41
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Old 05-18-2019, 05:13 PM   #42
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Correct me if I'm wrong, turd burglar, but that performance of Cherub Rock sounds tuned down a full-step. But I could be wrong

Either way, anyone who knows anything about music knows that artists down-tune songs that are regularly in standard tuning when they're not able to hit the notes anymore... Corgan is downtuned and he STILL can't hit the notes. It's a little sad. It's not a presentation I could ever imagine paying hundreds of dollars to see.

Corgan's becoming like old man Ozzy. Listen to how downtuned this is now LOL

You are wrong and Iím getting a little too comfortable correcting how wrong you are all the time.

Moron.

 
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Old 05-18-2019, 05:19 PM   #43
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Correct me if I'm wrong, turd burglar, but that performance of Cherub Rock sounds tuned down a full-step. But I could be wrong

Either way, anyone who knows anything about music knows that artists down-tune songs that are regularly in standard tuning when they're not able to hit the notes anymore... Corgan is downtuned and he STILL can't hit the notes. It's a little sad. It's not a presentation I could ever imagine paying hundreds of dollars to see.

Corgan's becoming like old man Ozzy. Listen to how downtuned this is now LOL

You could be wrong and, well look at that, you are wrong!

 
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Old 05-18-2019, 11:21 PM   #44
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They played SD songs in Eb tuning on the MCIS tour

 
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Here is Cherub Rock being performed in the exact same key as the OP video...in October 1995.


 
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Were they doing the "Mellon Collie" version of Rocket for this last tour? I forget, but truth be told i was never all that "hot" on that version. Not because it sucked or anything, out of context it was quite good, but man, Rocket without that riff is like Today without the "ice cream jingle" !

 
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They did the '93 SD studio version of Rocket for the last tour

Pure acoustic Rocket is disappointing, agreed. For some of the pajama shows, they played sort of a soft electric rocket [w/ lots of cool triplet drum fills]

 
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That cherub is inexcusably bad. A high school band would be loled off a talent show stage if they sounded like that. F-
Yeah man. Even the hired hands look half asleep.

If you're gonna hire stage-hands to tour for a well known band, you should at least make sure they put on a charismatic performance.

 
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You could be wrong and, well look at that, you are wrong!
It's still downtuned and even with with that he can't hit the notes... Not a good look.

 
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Here is Cherub Rock being performed in the exact same key as the OP video...in October 1995.

Just goes to vindicate the age old opinion that Pumpkins couldn't duplicate their sound live. Obviously,they were still a pretty bad-ass live band in those days, but they never could quite replicate the sounds of Siamese Dream.

 
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Were they doing the "Mellon Collie" version of Rocket for this last tour? I forget, but truth be told i was never all that "hot" on that version. Not because it sucked or anything, out of context it was quite good, but man, Rocket without that riff is like Today without the "ice cream jingle" !
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Oh and uh, shut the fuck up fuzzy and all that

 
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