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Old 03-30-2018, 04:40 PM   #1
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I found a relationship between Carl Jung’s theory of archetypes and disorders. My theory explores metaphysics and modern psychology. It reconfigures some archetypes and some of the types found on the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) as well a type not found on the DSM into something new.

Archetypes are primal symbols of people. These same archetypes are building blocks in determining personalities. Many individual archetypes are found in people at the same time / over a lifetime. These archetypes separately show fragments of people's unconscious minds. These archetypes combined display a large part or portion of the unconscious mind. When organized into groups of three they spell out psychological conditions. What seems random at first becomes very familiar when placed in a different context.

There are nine archetypes in this equation. Each archetype represents a distinctive set of traits. The child is vulnerable and relies upon others. The hero is troubled / always has problems and obstacles to overcome. The lover is affectionate. The magician is a visionary and is always in search of knowledge. The mother is empathetic and comforting. The rebel is disruptive and difficult. The shadow is a symbol of anger and apathy and impulsiveness. The trickster is cunning. The wise old man is insightful.

Each of the nine archetypes are most closely related to character traits. These nine archetypes are then sorted based on common characteristics into three intra-related groups. So there are three archetypes in each set leaving the nine individual archetypes evenly divided into sets of three. These three groups are most closely related to known personality types. The combination of the three archetypes in each set results in a model similar to psychological diagnostic criteria in which individual personality traits get grouped into disorders. What makes people unique and special is determined by what archetypes are found most in them. My theory believes that certain specific archetypes can be applied to several personality types, prominent emotional conditions and even a few psychiatric disorders.

I submit that if Carl Jung was presented with the task of writing the DSM that he would have used archetypes and groupings of archetypes. These archetype groupings I have found distill 9 DSM-5 diagnosises and one disorder not found in the DSM into three archetype groupings.I was able to match several DSM disorders because of their equivalency to archetypes. The end result is fit inside these three distinct archetype groupings. Each type is defined by three archetypes.

The insightful nature of the wise old man archetype, the visionary nature of the magician archetype and the troubled nature of the hero archetype are equivalent to the brilliant but withdrawn nature of people with asperger's and bipolar disorder. The hero archetype faces many internal struggles along the way like those with asperger's and bipolar disorder. The obsessive nature of asperger's types result in them being able to easily focus on certain subjects making them insightful like the wise old man archetype. During the manic stages of bipolar disorder people tend to have more profound ideas and thoughts resulting in the magician archetype. The magician archetype is always trying to understand things and attain knowledge like those with high functioning autism.

The affectionate nature of the lover archetype, devoted nature of the mother archetype and the needy nature of the child archetype are equivalent to the nurturing dependent nature of people with codependency personality disorder and dependent personality disorder. Codependents and
dependents are nurturing and empathetic just like the mother archetype to the point of being altruistic. They also depend and rely a lot on the people they are taking care of for validation. This can leave them vulnerable which is also a trait of the child archetype. They want to be loved and embraced and in return want to love and embrace demonstrating the lover archetype.They are never truly independent constantly depending on others like the child archetype and attending to others like the mother archetype.

The apathetic impulsive nature of the shadow archetype, cunning nature of the trickster archetype and defiant nature of the rebel archetype are equivalent to the impulsive, manipulative, difficult nature of people with narcissistic personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder and sociopathy. The trickster archetype embodies slyness and sneakiness which narcissists, borderlines, histrionics, and sociopaths constantly display. They aren't always honest in their intentions and are manipulative. They will gain a person's confidence as long as it benefits them. They will reveal the apathy of the shadow archetype if someone doesn't agree with them. They have no tolerance for people who aren't on their side. They also encompass the impulsive nature of the shadow archetype because they don't think things through. They are driven by desire. They don't want to follow along and would rather do things their own way so they are difficult, defiant, and disruptive like the rebel archetype.

There are ten psychological conditions / types used in this concept. They are Asperger's syndrome, bipolar 1, bipolar 2, cyclothymia, codependency, dependent, borderline, histrionic, narcissism, and sociopathy. The similar elements of these conditions unify them. They form an entity. A person will gravitate towards one of these three entities / types much more than any of the others.

The Designer The Professional The Charmer

Depending on certain archetypes people have different capabilities, strengths, and weaknesses. Learning about which archetypes a person displays will help them better understand these capabilities, strengths, and weaknesses and they can apply that information accordingly to professional aspects of their lives.

Archetypes are aspects of someone’s personality. They are character traits. The part of the mind that archetypes make up is called the subconscious. It is the area of the psyche where memories and emotions that have been repressed exist. In the subconscious mind desires and thoughts that are socially unacceptable or painful and uncomfortable have been submerged. The subconscious is also known as the unconscious mind. In the subconscious or unconscious mind emotions exist that you may not even be aware of. That is another way of looking at these archetypes.

I’m trying to build or expand upon Carl Jung’s initial concept of archetypes. I’m personalizing them by applying them to specific disorders.I have identified a pattern that exists with these archetypes. It takes three of them to identify a psychological disorder. You can match three archetypes to several disorders.

The archetypes that make up the Professional type are very different from the archetypes that make up the Charmer types. The mother is a symbol of empathy and compassion while the shadow is a darker archetype exhibiting apathy and hatred. The child is an archetype that exhibits innocence while the trickster archetype is far from innocent.

In many ways the wise old man archetype is the hero archetype towards the end of his life. The hero eventually overcomes the problems and obstacles that it faces and learns many things during its journey becoming a expert. The hero has cultivated so much wisdom through its experiences that it becomes the wise old man. The Designer type encompasses the darkness of the hero and the illumination of the wise old man.
The Designer is a troubled type but at the same time a brilliant type.

Everyone has a different role or function in society based on their disposition. My theory of personality helps highlight what people’s different roles or functions in society are. Some people are better at interpersonal skills. Others excel at being innovative or creative. And some are quite skilled at being caretakers sand supporters. The Designer is a visionary and an intellectual. The Professional has one main concern. That concern is the comfort of others. The Charmer is a manipulator. They know how to take advantage of situations.

The Charmer and Professional both have interpersonal skills that the Designer seems to lack. Socializing is something that is harder for the Designer. The Professional type isn’t nearly as outgoing as the Charmer type. The Charmer needs an audience to thrive.

The Professional type is more of a provider. They give care and support to others. They don’t dominate relationships like the Charmer type. The Charmer type is more of a leader. They captivate people with their outgoing personality. People are drawn towards Charmer types. They have a lot of followers and are always leading the way. The Designer is neither a big follower nor a big leader. The Designer type isn’t as concerned with being in either of those roles. The Designer is more concerned with concepts and ideas. The Designer would often rather be left alone.

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:40 PM   #2
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Archetypes:
The Child - dependency, vulnerable
The Lover - affectionate
The Mother - nurturing, devoted
Tendencies: generosity, dedication, sacrifice, humility
Dominant Capabilities: consoling, comforting, compromising
Conditions: Codependency, Dependent

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:41 PM   #3
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in short, I base my theories on a Meredith Brooks hit song

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:53 PM   #4
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hello,

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:59 PM   #5
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I collect sports memorabilia. Nothing wrong with that. I have quite the vast, wide-spanning collection. Having a stockpile of valuable collectibles is never a bad thing.

 
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:02 PM   #6
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Old 03-31-2018, 06:23 PM   #7
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is their a father archtype

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