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05-11-2012, 04:12 PM | #31 |
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A lot of TheFutureEmbrace is pretty great, mostly because he actually tried to move away from a lot of old styles, and for that I give him a lot of credit. It really feels like a solo record, as it definitely doesn't sound like Pumpkins, aside from maybe Now and Then, which has the lamenting vibe that Blissed and Gone had... but that's a good thing. The only bad songs on there are Pretty Pretty Star and I'm Ready. Not because of the vocals(they sound decent), but because the lyrics are so... cringe-inducing.
As for Mary Star of the Sea? If I never listened to that album again, I'd be completely fine with that. All it reminds me of now is a bunch of fuckers pretending to give a shit. And most of the music is awful, too. |
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05-11-2012, 05:06 PM | #32 |
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at least it is an honest work unlike zeitgeist.
and mina loy is actually excellent. pretty much every time I go running that song is on my playlist. |
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05-11-2012, 05:54 PM | #33 | |
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As another poster said, best thing Billy has released in the last 10yrs. Remember The Future Embrace vs The Eraser thread? oh good times. |
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05-11-2012, 08:07 PM | #34 |
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05-11-2012, 08:08 PM | #35 |
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tfe is better than zeitgeist any day. There's more creativity and heart put into it than anything he has done since 2000.
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05-11-2012, 08:23 PM | #36 |
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I'd much rather listen to Zeitgeist than TFE.
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05-11-2012, 09:37 PM | #37 |
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05-11-2012, 11:48 PM | #38 |
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Tfe is full of songs that start out promising and then go absolutely no where.
The best material coronas written in the past decade is the acoustic swan stuff that never got recorded and released. Add msots the song to that list. |
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05-11-2012, 11:54 PM | #39 |
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Say what you will about the album - no denying that screen was totally, totally badass. Such a cool compliment to the live performance of those songs.
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05-12-2012, 01:55 AM | #40 |
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Some of the songs are decent (mina , walking shade) . Other songs are putrid (I'm ready , sorrows). Its one of those albums that remind you of better albums you'd rather be listening too. Its only looks good in comparison to what has been released recently.
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05-12-2012, 03:24 AM | #41 |
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The last truly artistic thing he did was TFE.
It is not a great album, but a good one. I like the production and most of the songs. I also liked Billy in the beginning of this "era". At that time I thought he had some real integrity. The interviews were interesting. The diaries were cool. However, it was a big mistake to announce the intentions to relaunch SP the day TFE came out. |
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05-12-2012, 06:43 AM | #42 | |
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05-12-2012, 07:46 AM | #43 |
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I like the album but still am confused that Robert Smiths and Billy Corgan collaborated on a song and it was a Bee Gees cover. I mean, two of the best song writers on the planet and you do a cover?
BTW, that acoustic show they did in australia actually gave me appreciation for a lot of the songs as well. |
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05-12-2012, 09:36 AM | #44 |
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05-12-2012, 11:04 AM | #45 |
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I never really got that into it. It had a few good songs I liked but I found myself skipping the last minute or two of a lot of them, and some others I skipped completely. I am sure if it had come up when I just listened to the Pumpkins and five other bands I might feel differently but I have moved on for the most part.
And I have to say, I recently gave James Iha's solo album a few spins and I think it holds up much better. Not great by any means but much more listenable than TFE. |
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05-12-2012, 11:33 PM | #46 |
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I pretty like TFE. I can feel something listening to it while with ZG I just feel I need turn it off.
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05-13-2012, 04:53 AM | #47 |
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05-13-2012, 05:09 AM | #48 |
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why the hell is he running in place the whole time
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05-13-2012, 01:48 PM | #49 |
Minion of Satan
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this is what happens when he doesn't have a guitar.
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05-13-2012, 01:53 PM | #50 |
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its lame
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05-13-2012, 02:57 PM | #51 |
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love his look here though
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05-13-2012, 03:01 PM | #52 |
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05-13-2012, 03:56 PM | #53 |
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05-13-2012, 06:12 PM | #54 |
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I've tried several times to listen to this stuff, but it just sounds like a boring and more over produced continuation of the stuff he was doing with The Pumpkins post MCIS. It's everything bad from Adore and Machina turned up to 11.
After the wasted potential of Zwan this was just a major let down for me. |
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05-13-2012, 06:31 PM | #55 |
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Walking shade is a great tune! It's on my "best songs of June 2005" playlist!
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05-14-2012, 12:53 AM | #56 | |
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05-14-2012, 01:42 AM | #57 |
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what? TFE is probably less accessible than any Pumpkins album
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05-14-2012, 01:44 AM | #58 |
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yea but its straight up electronic pop 80s frontman style
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05-14-2012, 01:45 AM | #59 |
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it's completely self-indulgent and you can tell he sunk A LOT of money into the project, which is probably why he's so gunshy about spending money on his artistic whims nowadays
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05-14-2012, 04:05 AM | #60 |
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