Ages of Innocence

[NovaFritz]

I had never heard this version before.
What do the people think? Better than album cut?
Almost seems more Machina-like to me, that guitar bit at the really
explores the atmosphere.

[Ram27]

Pretty much every alt version of a Machina song is better than the album version

[werideatdusk]

great find! i agree that it fits the production better. this would have been great on machina ii but probably too close to the original to warrant inclusion

[Kahlo]

I love the bass sound on this.

[redbreegull]

Never heard this. Where's it from? I like the drums better than the final version.

[NovaFritz]

Apparently there was an Untitled EP and this was on it, as well as the MII Try. I always thought Untitled was just to sell the Rotten Apples. Seems like Billy really lost his way with these tracks: couldn't decide on their organization.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

http://spfreaks.com/item/untitled-2/

http://spfreaks.com/wp-content/uploa...2untitledc.jpg

[FoolofaTook]

is this the one with the delayed guitars? i'm at work and media stuff is disabled.

[myosis]

holy shit i have it

[Cool As Ice Cream]

OH MY GOD
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!!!!!1

[Dogfighter28]

It's missing the buildup of the song where everything drops out and the drums bring it back in harder

[Slurpee]

Billy's vocals are great in this version, much more raw

[NovaFritz]

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28

It's missing the buildup of the song where everything drops out and the drums bring it back in harder

But it still has an epic drum roll to introduce the closing chorus.

[D.]

Never warmed up to untitled tbh

[myosis]

never understood how it was supposed to be a pumpkins "classic", since i didn't like it. that's probably why i had forgotten about the b-sides

[killtrocity]

I wish he would release the remaster already. Was supposed to be out in 2014 wasn't it? I suppose we are lucky that it's coming at all

[Disco King]

Originally Posted by D.

Never warmed up to untitled tbh

Yeah, it's pretty boring to me. I don't understand how this was supposed to be their swan song.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

I wish he would release the remaster already. Was supposed to be out in 2014 wasn't it? I suppose we are lucky that it's coming at all

ahum...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...album-20110426

Smashing Pumpkins Announce Reissues, New Album
Band will roll out expanded, remastered versions of their albums over the next three years
By Matthew Perpetua April 26, 2011

The Smashing Pumpkins have announced plans to roll out a campaign of remastered reissues of their back catalog over the course of the next three years. The first wave of the Pumpkins' ambitious reissue plan will begin in the fall, when the band's first two albums, Gish and Siamese Dream, arrive in stores along with their 1994 compilation set, Pisces Iscariot. Each album will come packaged with bonus material, though nothing specific has been announced. (Frontman Billy Corgan did mention on Twitter recently that he had unearthed tapes of their first live performance of "Starla" and a version of Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" recorded in the studio during the making of Siamese Dream, which should give fans some idea of what to expect in terms of unreleased tracks.)

The second wave of releases, which is scheduled for 2012, will ******* the Pumpkins' 1995 double album Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, the five-disc rarities set The Aeroplane Flies High, and the 1998 goth-electronica record Adore. In 2013, the band will merge Machina/The Machines of God and Machina II: The Friends and Enemies of Modern Music into one package. This will be the first time Machina II will be released commercially in its entirety – the four-disc set was originally made available for free online. A new hits disc is also planned for sometime in 2013.

The Smashing Pumpkins have also announced plans to release Oceania, "an album within an album," as part of the band's ongoing 44-song epic Teargarden by Kaleidyscope. The 10-song set, which will not ******* any of the songs already released as part of the project, is currently scheduled to come out in September. A new song, "Owata," will be released for free online next week before the band hits the studio to record the Oceania material.

Release	Announced release date	Actual release date
Gish reissue	Fall 2011	November 2011
Siamese Dream reissue	Fall 2011	November 2011
Pisces Iscariot reissue	Fall 2011	July 2012
MCIS reissue	2012	December 2012
TAFH reissue	2012	July 2013
Adore reissue	2012	September 2014
Machinas reissue	2013	?
New greatest hits	2013	?
Oceania	September 2011	June 2012

[Cool As Ice Cream]

and let's not forget that chicago kid is sitting in a can just because someone wrote something on the interwebs and belly read it.
i bet nobody will care about these songs the day they ever come out.

change the music industry by not releasing music at a time where people will care about it. cry about the fans not being proper fans anymore. absolutely groundbreaking.
announce teagarden. announce songs being released as soon as they are recorded. spend months getting each song out, in order to get the best deal with myspace etc. absolutely groundbreaking.

[Ram27]

lol what would be on the new greatest hits

[Cool As Ice Cream]

drum and fife
run two me (james iha remix)
song for a song
the beginning is the end is the beginning

[Cool As Ice Cream]

also remember how around the time of that announcement, it was stated that all these releases were put into a contract, so nobody should doubt the release dates. they were set in stone.

i remember not believing that. at all.

[Bomb The Moon]

new greatest hitz!!!

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by Dade

lay off the weed guys...

is this some kind of sick, twisted joke?

[zbeast78]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

and let's not forget that chicago kid is sitting in a can just because someone wrote something on the interwebs and belly read it.

whatever. we all know the real reason that was canned (billy didn't like the finished product, and just scrapped it/ moved on)

[Spira|_]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

drum and fife
run two me (james iha remix)
song for a song
the beginning is the end is the beginning

LOL

[Kahlo]

Is that James singing backing vocals around 1.57?