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Old 09-13-2020, 07:36 PM   #61
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This is better than either of the new SP songs by far. You have one of the best drummers ever and then you make him play a disco four on the floor beat? Lol
it's not even so much what he had him play so much as the fact that he buried his drums in generic bullshit midi samples afterward in a stale, quantized way that may as well have just been programmed in the first place

as for these new songs, fucking great sonically & performance-wise
i actually want to revisit these multiple times & play them for other people

 
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Old 09-13-2020, 07:36 PM   #62
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Old 09-13-2020, 08:38 PM   #63
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I agree. I find myself actually wanting to revisit these songs and play them again. They actually evoke some atmosphere and mood and feeling. Whereas Cyr feels like I’m listening to some embarrassing soulless product.

 
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Old 09-13-2020, 08:40 PM   #64
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I agree. I find myself actually wanting to revisit these songs and play them again. They actually evoke some atmosphere and mood and feeling. Whereas Cyr feels like Iím listening to some embarrassing soulless product.
because you are

 
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Old 09-13-2020, 09:06 PM   #65
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it's not even so much what he had him play so much as the fact that he buried his drums in generic bullshit midi samples afterward in a stale, quantized way that may as well have just been programmed in the first place

as for these new songs, fucking great sonically & performance-wise
i actually want to revisit these multiple times & play them for other people
honestly i hope it was just done on an ekit. what a waste of time and effort to put samples on top

one of the great things about JC is how amazing he tunes his drums. why the fuck would i want to listen to a sample

 
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Old 09-13-2020, 11:54 PM   #66
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Hearing this really makes me bummed about the new SP album. What a waste for Billy to have Jimmy’s talents be so processed and boring... rather than letting him sound like himself.

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 09:25 AM   #68
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Today is the day. I don't see Honor available for purchase on the Make Records site, but here is a link to Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Jimmy-C...s%2C186&sr=8-6

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Unless you have a strong distaste for jazz, I suspect that most people here will enjoy Honor far more than any of the four songs we've heard so far from Shiny 2. Genre-wise, Honor sits closer to The Parable than Life Begins Again, but has a few more rock influences than the former.

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Old 09-25-2020, 10:22 AM   #69
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Just 5 tunes?

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 10:57 AM   #70
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These are really good. I don't really feel strong either way about the new Pumpkins but you can inject JCC right into my veins.

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 11:52 AM   #71
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So much better than new Pumpkins

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 12:31 PM   #72
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i would guess that it's mostly new stuff and he just felt Paranoia (or... the track previously known as paranoia ) fit sonically with the rest of it

not huge on this "title motif" but the music is bad-ass so whatev
I heard a rough cut of track 4 back in 2015. I can't speak to the other three. Regardless of when they were recorded, these songs are so much more inspiring than the new SP!

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 12:32 PM   #73
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Nice to actually hear fucking real drums.

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 01:14 PM   #74
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Nice to actually hear fucking real drums.
Boz should let Mohler produce the Pumpkins . It sounds like a real band. The drums sound amazing.

Literally better than Rick Rubin's bullshit.

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 01:42 PM   #75
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The dynamics are UNREAL on this.

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:02 PM   #76
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so so good

it's almost like part of the SP we loved was founded on this sort of musicality

and you can't even argue like 'jimmy's tired of playing acoustic drums' or whatever cause why would his side project be this fucking excellent

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:05 PM   #77
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that SNARE

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:07 PM   #78
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honestly if you replaced the wind instruments and warbly jazz piano thing on this with guitar it's the best SP record since MCIS

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:11 PM   #79
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Always loved the sound of Jimmy's rim shots, just even more sublime with this record. Or is it the area of the snare which makes that real nice twang.

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:15 PM   #80
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Three songs in, and this is absolutely incredible.

Jimmy 1 : SP 0

In fact, Chamberlin Complex by a million.

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:52 PM   #81
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yeah this is so satisfying in practically every way the new SP is not - but not to make everything JCC vs SP on its own merits it's just some really beautiful stuff with Jimmy just destroying the drums in the best way

when that trumpet comes in on track 3 i just about had an "eargasm" as well

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 02:56 PM   #82
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would you say it's the best thing since machina ii?

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 04:19 PM   #83
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would you say it's the best thing since machina ii?
No. Dopamine Addict is right.

 
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Old 09-25-2020, 07:00 PM   #84
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HAHAHAHAHA yes

 
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Old 09-26-2020, 02:36 PM   #85
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This is great.

Something is definitely wrong with the “band” when the drummer is doing this and the band is putting out Cyr.

 
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Old 09-26-2020, 04:03 PM   #86
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found this on reddit, someone got to talk to JC after a show

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I think I asked him if he missed his SD-era mullet.

He said something like, “Even if I could grow it, Corgan wouldn’t let me do that these days, anyway”.
love the idea that corgan dictates the band members hair

insert vieuphoria clip here

 
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Old 09-26-2020, 09:51 PM   #87
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New Jimmy interview here.

 
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Old 09-26-2020, 11:19 PM   #88
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this sounds really close to life begins again which was probably my favorite post 2000 record.

this is insane good.. been waiting for it for too long.

 
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Old 09-26-2020, 11:24 PM   #89
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yeah this is so satisfying in practically every way the new SP is not - but not to make everything JCC vs SP on its own merits it's just some really beautiful stuff with Jimmy just destroying the drums in the best way

when that trumpet comes in on track 3 i just about had an "eargasm" as well

 
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Old 09-26-2020, 11:35 PM   #90
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I wish Jimmy would make a whole album with Rob Dickinson from Catherine Wheel on vocals. The two songs he sang on Life Begins Again were ca$h money.

 
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