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Old 09-15-2020, 09:22 PM   #1
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:23 PM   #2
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The children's author JK Rowling is being "canceled" on Twitter after it emerged her latest book featured a male killer who wears dresses as he kills his female victims.

It follows a string of comments Rowling has made about transgender people, making fun of gender-inclusive terms, and calling for an end to gender-affirming care for young trans people.

Jake Kerridge of The Telegraph wrote the novel's "moral seems to be: never trust a man in a dress," and features a male serial killer who wears a dress to kill his cisgender female victims.

As explored in the Netflix documentary "Disclosure," the trope of a "male killer in a dress" implies transgender women are violent murderers and psychopaths. It has been used in films like "Silence of the Lambs" and "Psycho."

 
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:36 PM   #3
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this is abuse of the dead celebrity thread naming scheme

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Old 09-15-2020, 09:47 PM   #4
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When someone becomes TERF their soul dies

 
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:50 PM   #5
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When someone becomes TERF their soul dies
Shes been a TERF for a while though.

 
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:54 PM   #6
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She’s been a TERF for a while though.
Well, I can't control the timing of when people decide to cancel her

 
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:56 PM   #7
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all I can do is my part

 
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Old 09-15-2020, 10:46 PM   #8
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If we'd only canceled her for writing the Harry Potter books, none of this would have happened.

 
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:18 PM   #9
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Her old ass boomer perspective sucks, but at some point expectations for someone who wrote corny formulaic predictable children’s books needs to be reasonably low, right?

 
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:19 PM   #10
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I’m not excusing her shit. She sucks. But what do we honestly expect from her? Old people suck at gender stuff.

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 12:31 AM   #11
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"The children's author JK Rowling is being "canceled" on Twitter after it emerged her latest book featured a male killer who wears dresses as he kills his female victims."

uhh.. ETLSOOM (enlighten the living shit out of me, a term coined here by me, circa 2005) - what is the big deal here?

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 12:56 AM   #12
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I think that the idea is that having evil/mentally disturbed characters crossdress might strike some as stigmatizing trans women.

Of course, crossdressing, drag, and being trans are all totally different things, but since many people conflate them, some might see the use of one as a narrative device as being an attempt at commentary on all three. It probably wouldn't warrant as much suspicion if written by somebody who hasn't already expressed "gender-critical" views and doesn't have a known TERF-y bent. But since it is being written by one, it does make one stroke one's chin and go hmmmmm

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 01:18 AM   #13
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boy it's a good thing Tom Harris wasn't (publicly) transphobic, Buffalo Bill coulda been the Zwarte Piet of fictional serial killers

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 01:48 AM   #14
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I haven't read the novel, but I think I've heard that Harris has the psychologists in the book specifically say that Buffalo Bill isn't trans just to avoid any possible unintended implications.

 
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seems like a reach. like people are on a hunt to find things to be offended about. there's plenty of things out there in the world at large, but this one seems like a stretch

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:47 AM   #16
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she's willing to totally die on the hill

stake any good will she ever had on invalidating trans

goes crazy with it on twitter

I don't think it's a stretch at all that it's the reason she wrote this book

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 05:30 AM   #17
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seems like a reach. like people are on a hunt to find things to be offended about. there's plenty of things out there in the world at large, but this one seems like a stretch
I think the reaction in this case is driven by how the plot summary for this new story pairs with things she's been quoted as saying, such as, "When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels hes a woman . . . then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside."

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:34 AM   #18
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seems like a reach. like people are on a hunt to find things to be offended about. there's plenty of things out there in the world at large, but this one seems like a stretch
she is an outspoken Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist. She believes trans women are predatory men with mental disorders who transition as a way of invading "female spaces" and to assault and pursue women. And she believes that trans men are mentally ill and deluded by the lure of male privilege. She wants trans people eliminated and banned from public spaces.

She's a garbage person.

The trope of a trans, gay, queer male psychotic murderer is an old bigoted trope that plays on peoples' fears of queer people.

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:40 AM   #19
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The narrative trope in fiction of a psychotic queer person needs to end. These stereotypes in entertainment and literature are effective BECAUSE they prey on bias against queer people.

Just like depicting black men as rapists and drug dealers. Or latinos as violet gang members. All of these things are morally reprehensible as narrative choices.

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:05 AM   #20
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she is an outspoken Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist. She believes trans women are predatory men with mental disorders who transition as a way of invading "female spaces" and to assault and pursue women. And she believes that trans men are mentally ill and deluded by the lure of male privilege. She wants trans people eliminated and banned from public spaces.

She's a garbage person.

The trope of a trans, gay, queer male psychotic murderer is an old bigoted trope that plays on peoples' fears of queer people.
It’s awful. And I hear that argument about making femininity a safe space for cis women, but it sucks when it prevents allies from coming together. And I feel like that argument reinforces toxic masculinity and deepens perceived gender division. I think that’s too nuanced of an area for old people to navigate. Like they don’t get how harmful that is for trans or non-binary people.

 
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:10 AM   #23
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It’s awful. And I hear that argument about making femininity a safe space for cis women, but it sucks when it prevents allies from coming together. And I feel like that argument reinforces toxic masculinity and deepens perceived gender division. I think that’s too nuanced of an area for old people to navigate. Like they don’t get how harmful that is for trans or non-binary people.
being old is not an excuse for being a bigot. lots of old people are relatively open minded and are not scumbags. And within the TERF community some of the most active and vile TERFs are lesbian women who are younger than Rowling. It's a small number, but they're very vocal. The right wing has used these TERFs and amplified them, because their ideology overlaps with anti queer components of fascism.

Without Fox News and other right wing media amplifying these messages and providing cover to say these things publicly, I don't think as many older people like Rowling would ever get lured into this ideology, or at least they wouldn't feel that it's OK to voice it publicly the way she does.

 
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Absolutely I agree. My expectations are lower than low for people’s capacity to empathize or think critically. I assume most everyone is a horrid bigot.

And Fox and the like don’t just cater to these people. They’re created by them. It’s a difficult cause and effect loop.

 
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Im not excusing her shit. She sucks. But what do we honestly expect from her? Old people suck at gender stuff.
Depends. My mom is very good about it and she's in her 60s.

 
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she's willing to totally die on the hill

stake any good will she ever had on invalidating trans

goes crazy with it on twitter

I don't think it's a stretch at all that it's the reason she wrote this book
At this point I think she might just be seeking attention. She definitely is transphobic though.

 
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Depends. My mom is very good about it and she's in her 60s.
Your mom pukes shit up my dickhole.

 
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I thought you nerds loved these books

 
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Phillip Pullman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JK Dingding

 
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Wouldn't be surprised if the same goes for Bill Pullman, really. He may write.

 
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