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Old 09-03-2020, 03:25 PM   #31
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I like the guitars. Song improved. Rocks more. Good work

 
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Old 09-03-2020, 08:13 PM   #32
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I think the guitars could be a little lower in the mix, but the cyber-metal tone really works. Could maybe cut out the guitars during the first half of the verse and then bring them back in halfway through the verse for a little dynamic. Did you run the big muff direct? It has that nasty Everlasting Gaze type thing going on

 
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Old 09-04-2020, 03:14 AM   #33
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I mean, it's okay but the solo is bad and not remotely Corganesque.
Thanks for your comment.

 
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Old 09-04-2020, 03:18 AM   #34
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the fuzz guitar honestly kinda ties it together, musically it almost sounds like a Machina II cut now - i'm glad you stuck with doubling the bassline instead of muddying it up with a different part, this actually makes even the backing vocals make a bit more sense (or at least, sound more like an ethereal element of the song instead of just tacked-on radio fluffing)
I didn't actually do any bass, I just did three guitar parts and the crappy, completely un-Corgan-esque, ruins-the-whole-song solo.

And yes, I just used a muff (a Big Muff Pi if you must know) which was DI-ed. I played three parts, two of which drop out during the verses and come back during the "stare down your masters" line.

If I'd been inclined to spend more than 5 minutes on it, I could've worked on the dynamics a bit and improved the solo.

 
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Old 09-04-2020, 05:41 AM   #35
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Hey man, the solo is dope. Who cares what these internet nerds think.
It's just everything is too loud. Pull back your guitar a bit and pan them left and right to a degree based on your taste.
Then boost your solo, leave it in the middle.
Leave the verse guitar in the center.

Iha's parts can float through the mix depending.
Welcome to the pumpkins

 
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Old 09-04-2020, 06:23 AM   #36
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that's a surprisingly tasteful improvement

 
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Old 09-04-2020, 08:08 AM   #37
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Hey man, the solo is dope. Who cares what these internet nerds think.
It's just everything is too loud. Pull back your guitar a bit and pan them left and right to a degree based on your taste.
Then boost your solo, leave it in the middle.
Leave the verse guitar in the center.

Iha's parts can float through the mix depending.
Welcome to the pumpkins
That's exactly how I mixed it. Two big guitars hard left and right. Verse guitar is in the middle. And so's the solo.

Can't do any more with it now as I deleted the session. :-)

 
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Old 09-04-2020, 10:28 AM   #38
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Ginger just released a single with her new band and it's heavy as fuck


 
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Old 09-05-2020, 01:17 AM   #39
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lol at these guitar players in here telling another guitarist how they should do it. like do it or shut up.

but yeah solo is great and this sounds rad. almost sounds like this song could have been a big fuzzy guitar wash hence being shoe gaze, which is what i believe BC said this record was going to be

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 02:21 AM   #40
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i can't play leads without sounding like a 4th grader so it's hard to say shit

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 02:50 AM   #41
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Ginger just released a single with her new band and it's heavy as fuck

Sounds cool. Sounds more like the Pumpkins than they do!

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 03:47 AM   #42
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That's exactly how I mixed it. Two big guitars hard left and right. Verse guitar is in the middle. And so's the solo.

Can't do any more with it now as I deleted the session. :-)
I wasn't saying you did something wrong, I was just saying that's pretty much how you mix the pumpkins. Again. It's dope ����

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 04:00 AM   #43
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Smoke dope that would do better for you

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 12:14 PM   #44
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lol at these guitar players in here telling another guitarist how they should do it. like do it or shut up.

but yeah solo is great and this sounds rad. almost sounds like this song could have been a big fuzzy guitar wash hence being shoe gaze, which is what i believe BC said this record was going to be
I have no desire to do this just had some thoughts on the mix so sit your ass down.

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 12:56 PM   #45
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Good god i much prefer this to the original, nice work

Can we do a petition to ask eviltimeban to please do this to the whole record

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 02:53 PM   #46
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I have no desire to do this just had some thoughts on the mix so sit your ass down.
chill out i wasn't talking to you.

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 02:58 PM   #47
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This version seems really bezter than the original. Please put it on youtube.thx

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 07:31 PM   #48
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Ginger just released a single with her new band and it's heavy as fuck

this is not too bad *thumbs up*

 
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Old 09-05-2020, 08:22 PM   #49
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Gingers song is better than anything Corgan has done in like 15 years.

 
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Old 09-06-2020, 03:05 AM   #50
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I listen to this just to hear that sweet sweet chunky and hunky big muff pi.

 
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Old 09-07-2020, 05:16 AM   #51
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Good god i much prefer this to the original, nice work

Can we do a petition to ask eviltimeban to please do this to the whole record
Aw shucks. Well... if I have time I might do the whole track and do a proper mix, and maybe give Colour of Love a go as well. It would be better to have the individual track stems to work with though, rather than just playing over the master. I know there's software that allows you to isolate the parts but it never works that well. I did it before when I remixed Doomsday Clock.

What we *really* need is a Corgan impersonator who can sing the new songs in the old style. Then we won't need Billy anymore, we can just make our own SP tracks.

 
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Old 09-07-2020, 12:33 PM   #52
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Kind of neat, but wholly unnecessary. The original is much better. It just doesn't sound right this way.

 
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Old 09-07-2020, 06:26 PM   #53
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I liked it. Yeah blah blah the solo, but apart from that I just thought it sounded crunchier. I could imagine it being a demo/b-side that got too polished on release. Wouldn't mind seeing you try out Colour of Love too.

Give the band a call, I don't see why we can't have 4 guitarists anyway.

 
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Old 09-08-2020, 03:25 AM   #54
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I liked it. Yeah blah blah the solo, but apart from that I just thought it sounded crunchier. I could imagine it being a demo/b-side that got too polished on release. Wouldn't mind seeing you try out Colour of Love too.

Give the band a call, I don't see why we can't have 4 guitarists anyway.
Problem is, I'm tall and bald. Billy wouldn't have that. Unless I *replaced* Billy - that might work.

 
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Old 09-08-2020, 06:20 PM   #55
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Problem is, I'm tall and bald. Billy wouldn't have that. Unless I *replaced* Billy - that might work.
I don't know man, don't forget the famous bald guys Adore tour. You had Billy, Aronoff, Garson and another balding dude. You could be in good company. It would probably help if you could be Asian too. Could you be Asian?


 
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Old 09-09-2020, 04:53 AM   #56
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I'm not Asian, but I'll try!

 
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