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Old 10-01-2018, 07:41 AM   #31
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:47 AM   #32
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Thanks for being less of a smug fuck than what most non vegans think vegans are
Oh shut the fuck up. I lived with a Vegan for 14 years, and eat a vegan diet for 6 years. I've got a pretty good idea about how it all works.

This isn't 20 years ago. Just get on with it. No one fucking cares about what you eat. There are apps galore, food review sites, restaurant guides and more out there.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:21 AM   #33
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Really appreciate the last sentence in that post my dude, thanks for the tip

But going by your example, should we just be a big fuckin' jerk to anyone that even mildly excitedly takes an interest in something they've just discovered, or makes a commitment to something significant in their lives?

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:23 AM   #34
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Hey queer girls in the queer girl thread, thanks for telling everyone you are are queer. That's the most important part of your new lifestyle.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:39 AM   #35
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I am basically vegetarian most days because I don't really care for meat....but giving up dairy would be impossible for me. And other products like soap. I'm a creature of convenience with little altruism left, on a grand scale, at least.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 06:12 PM   #36
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Me? Eat fresh fruits and vegetables? Geddouddahere.

I do hope to eventually improve my general diet and cooking habits to incorporate fresh produce more
What do you eat, then? I feel like pumping your body full of fake proteins and processed stuff just because it complies with veganism is worse than eating a bit of meat here and there.
I went pseudo-vegetarian for a few years and replaced a lot of animal foods with soy and it completely fucked with my hormones. Obviously it doesn't mean that would happen to everyone, but I would not recommend.

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I've probably unwittingly eaten butter or honey in the last couple of weeks.
Just be prepared for that to happen to you forever, if you plan on eating out at non-specifically vegan places.

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who would normally find themselves under fire if they served a trace of something to someone with an allergy.
That makes a lot of sense, though, as you can kill people by serving them food they are allergic to. You can't kill a vegan by serving them meat. It's purely a choice thing. A valid one, but a choice nonetheless.

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Not that hard - we used to get a lot of stuff from the Body Shop. A lot of Dr. Hauschka and Weleda stuff is vegan.

You just get used to shopping in different places. It's easier than ever now, with internet shopping.
This. There's a lot of vegan and cruelty free brands available at supermarkets now and they're not necessarily much more expensive than regular products.
I love Essano's shampoo and conditioner and they're vegan-friendly. You can get them for fairly cheap at Chemist Warehouse.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:08 PM   #37
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But going by your example, should we just be a big fuckin' jerk to anyone that even mildly excitedly takes an interest in something they've just discovered, or makes a commitment to something significant in their lives?
I guess it depends on a person’s reasons for the new commitment

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:46 PM   #38
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I'm not vegan, but vegetarian. I became one a year and a half ago because my diet was already leaning that way. I had previously lost all my fat weight through portion control and exercise and eventually I stopped red meat, then turkey, and I have never liked pork products; so it was a small step to just not eat meat.

I still eat eggs and cheese (because the vegan alternatives are gross to me), and I don't pay attention to what non-food products I use that may use animal products because I'm not vegetarian for animal rights reasons.

I used to work at a health food store and I did try some alternative products like soap and toothpaste, but the soap left my skin feeling weird and the toothpaste I was told to stop using by my dentist.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:48 PM   #39
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The most common misconception I came across was that, if you're vegan-veggie, that you automatically must be healthy and thin and that is, uh, not the case. Calories are calories, whether it's red meat or six vegan brownies.

It is fun to cook veg/veggie and go to veg/veggie places, though. All kinds of new stuff to try.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:53 PM   #40
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And I generally don't tell people I'm vegetarian unless it is either pertinent to the conversation or they ask about what I'm eating.

I was seeing a dude last year who cooked a meal that had bacon in it. I just quietly picked it out and ate the rest of the food. Someone else noticed and I got real shy (no idea why) and told them. He was apologetic for forgetting but it's not a big deal.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:07 PM   #41
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r u SDA?

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:12 PM   #42
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What is SDA?


 
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:13 PM   #43
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I just Googled SDA.

Am I Seventh Day Adventist? Can't say I ever have been.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:13 PM   #44
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They don't eat pork.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:14 PM   #45
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:15 PM   #46
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Don't forget to make a thread announcing that your dog/cat is a rescue. White folks love to brag about that kind of thing.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:16 PM   #47
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They don't eat pork.
ohhh. never knew that. i know ze muslims don't. i am not aware of what ze jews do - do they?

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:17 PM   #48
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i would like to add that, yeah, people who are obnoxiously vegan are, well, obnoxious but have you been around people who really love meat?

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:51 PM   #49
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Don't you just looooooooooove a good steak?

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:29 PM   #50
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I can’t justify eating meat but I still do it. It’s a moral failing.

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:33 PM   #51
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Old 10-01-2018, 11:48 PM   #52
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ohhh. never knew that. i know ze muslims don't. i am not aware of what ze jews do - do they?
no. also no shellfish, or cheeseburgers! plenty of ways to stay fat, though

 
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Old 10-01-2018, 11:51 PM   #53
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I can’t justify eating meat but I still do it. It’s a moral failing.
something something no ethical consumption under capitalism

 
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Old 10-02-2018, 12:27 AM   #54
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I mean, even Soylent Green is people.

 
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:16 AM   #55
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I mean, even Soylent Green is people.
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:36 AM   #56
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The hipster Silicon Valley stuff?

Working themselves into an early grave. May as well consume that shit instead of actually eating something yummy, like grain fed beef.

 
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Old 10-02-2018, 01:53 AM   #57
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I had started eating chicken and fish when I met my husband, and he didn’t care one way or another, but when I fell pregnant for the first time and began craving red meat he was pretty happy.

He comes from sheep farming families on both sides, so he grew up watching the whole process from lambing to slaughter. His eating motto is “I love all delicious animals.” No romantic notions of animal sentience or misguided anthropomorphism for him.

His cousins are the those people on FB who have profile pics of them carrying dead wild pigs out of the forest. Not much to do out in the country, hunting and rugby are pretty much your only options.

To his family, veganism is a ‘townie’ thing, along with overpriced coffee, salad and arts degrees.

I have one kid who takes after him and is pragmatic about meat eating, and another who regularly eats meat at the dinner table and then cries actual tears about it, afterward. So I guess it’s a sort of personality thing maybe. I have always been much more sentimental. Every so often I feel guilty about eating meat but it sort of blends in with all my other guilt, now.

 
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Veganism is a ‘townie’ thing, along with overpriced coffee, salad and arts degrees
He has a point.

 
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Eh. Sure yeah but there are differences of degree.

 
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Yeah, like ons thing destroys the planet a lot quicker than the other.

 
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