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Old 12-07-2015, 04:17 PM   #1
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https://soundcloud.com/scowiemusic/e...medium=twitter

whole interview is decent starts at 8:35

 
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:20 PM   #2
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i liked the dig about BC's solo/SP2 stuff lacking complexity when Jim isnt involved.

this is exciting news. I sincerely hope something comes of it. If BC wants to end this teargarden fiasco on a high note, he would do well to get Jimmy and Nicole back in the fold and make a great record. He still has it in him. Oceania could have been at a whole other level with Jimmy's involvement.

 
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Old 12-07-2015, 06:11 PM   #3
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Oceania would seriously have been Machina-level or higher with Jim

It has a really bright, nice feel to it, and real songs. Imagine Quasar but with Jimmy playing the Jellybelly intro on top. Or the chorus of Panopticon without Mikey killing the groove every half measure

 
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Old 12-07-2015, 06:14 PM   #4
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17:20

https://soundcloud.com/scowiemusic/e...medium=twitter

whole interview is decent starts at 8:35
This is a fucking great interview, thanks monte!

That's exactly why I have my kit the way it is - the biggest rack tom above the snare, like a four piece kit, then the other ones are elsewhere. Nice to hear Jimmy say that


And this is pretty much the best quote ever:

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...[me and Billy] just had lunch the other day, and we were talking about 'oh, what are we gonna do?' and I said 'Hey, you should just come to my house and we'll play some music!'

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Old 12-07-2015, 08:10 PM   #5
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Hi Monte.

 
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Old 12-07-2015, 08:39 PM   #6
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Oceania would seriously have been Machina-level or higher with Jim
Jaysus, can you set your bar lower?

 
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Old 12-07-2015, 11:49 PM   #7
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Yeah, anything after Machina. What's wrong with Machina?

 
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Old 12-08-2015, 12:32 AM   #8
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Yeah, anything after Machina. What's wrong with Machina?

 
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Old 12-08-2015, 01:45 AM   #9
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This is good news. Not musically, that will suck either way. Billy needs a friend, though.

 
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:32 AM   #10
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Old 12-08-2015, 12:40 PM   #11
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they have "a jam" scheduled. don't get your panties wet, Jimmy sounded happy about it because it's a one off thing with no commitment...

 
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:07 PM   #12
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You're right, that's not a very good song. But check out any of the 11 tracks before it, you're missing out.

 
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:23 PM   #13
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You're right, that's not a very good song. But check out any of the 11 tracks before it, you're missing out.
Half of the album is bad. The overproduction is bad. It's too long. The song choice.

The lyrics... what could I say about them? Well, last Cool As Ice Cream comment looks like something that could be on Machina.

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Old 12-08-2015, 03:25 PM   #14
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:54 PM   #15
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It is not by any means a low bar.

 
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Old 12-08-2015, 04:27 PM   #16
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more like the crying jeans of Billy. the state of his fucking gut though.

 
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:05 PM   #17
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zzaaahIIII've been waiting for youu

 
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:54 PM   #18
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Nice!

Perhaps BC's finally came to his senses

 
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:39 AM   #19
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Guys, it doesn't matter if Jimmy is involved.

You're getting songs like "Burnt Orange Black".

The vocals will be at least 5db too loud with no reverb on them. Lyrics will be embarrasing with at least one mention of "lovahh" and/or "strange".

It's going to be terrible. Drumming alone cannot save Billy's current-day songwriting capability.

 
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:46 AM   #20
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hey guys the interview is decent.

it also starts at 8:35.

 
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:58 AM   #21
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Guys, it doesn't matter if Jimmy is involved.

You're getting songs like "Burnt Orange Black".

The vocals will be at least 5db too loud with no reverb on them. Lyrics will be embarrasing with at least one mention of "lovahh" and/or "strange".

It's going to be terrible. Drumming alone cannot save Billy's current-day songwriting capability.
FWIW I figured a little thing out. Doesn't mean shit probably but

Gish starts with a drumbeat. So does Siamese Dream. (Interestingly, sides A and B of the single LP of Gish start with drums - I Am One and Suffer. Sides A and C of SD start with Cherub Rock and Geek USA respectively). Mellon Collie opens with Piano. Adore with crickets and acoustic guitar.

Then Machina. Opens with a big heavy guitar riff. Billy has abandoned all concepts of atmosphere or teamwork* just to write a song he thinks will be a hit.

*it's kind of like in football. when a team is losing by a lot, sometimes the quarterback will try too hard to get the team back into it by his own hand by throwing deep passes and shit to score quick. this usually doesn't work and makes it worse. same principle here

Zeitgeist again opens with a drumbeat - perhaps an attempt by Jimmy at capturing the old SP magic. But Billy quickly quells that when the vocals come in 5 dB too loud

Oceania and Monuments open with synth, an unfortunate hallmark of recent SP. It's like Billy's trying to replace an awesome, organic drummer with fake shit that he thinks sounds current

Calling it now, D4N starts with a guitar riff

 
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Burnt Orange Black is great, it's not on the album tho. Probably because it's good actually.

 
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Old 12-09-2015, 01:32 PM   #23
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yeah, BOB is a great song. sounded great at webster hall last year. porcelina re-write it may be

 
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:08 PM   #24
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i don't understand the love Burnt Orange Black gets around here.

it sounds, to me, like a track too boring to be on O or MtaE.

it starts out strong and moody, but then he just repeats that one fuckin' line over and over and over and over.... "while the others burn black(?)" or whatever the fuck. great hook billy.

 
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Calling it now, D4N starts with a guitar riff
We will be lucky if there even is guitar on the record.

 
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album start like Marquis in spades

 
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:17 PM   #28
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thanks for the link Monte

consider changing your stances on gay rights

 
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I look around in the world and see all these people playing music for reasons that don't make any sense, or that I just can't relate to. I don't see what it is that they feel is the purpose of music, you know?

In my band, we have this thing where each one of us has our reasons for playing music, and they somehow all fit together. I mean, the reason I started playing music was because of punk rock and new wave.

 
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Oceania would still sucks even with Jimmy there. James there would make a bigger difference, for better sure. Even though the album would still suck anyway, chill folks. Main problem is Billy, no inspiration either motivation.

Just listen the interview until 8:35.

 
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