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View Poll Results: What score do you give this album?
10/10 This album is perfection. 1 0.94%
9/10 Pretty amazing 4 3.77%
8/10 Strong, but let down by a few small issues 7 6.60%
7/10 Solid effort, but slightly lacking. 24 22.64%
6/10 Just above average. 10 9.43%
5/10 Average album. Some great moments, some not. 18 16.98%
4/10 Below average. A few good tracks, mostly awful 17 16.04%
3/10 Just, whatever. 9 8.49%
2/10 Mostly awful. 7 6.60%
1/10 Unlistenable 8 7.55%
0/10 Go sit in a corner and rethink your life. 1 0.94%
Spaced / I hate polls. 0 0%
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:22 AM   #151
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Would have to say Gish is at least an 8. Definitely agree with the rest of Breeg's list. Haven't heard must past Z so no comment.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:25 AM   #152
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Haven't heard must past Z so no comment.
you could say it's a downward spiral

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:25 AM   #153
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:37 AM   #154
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I would agree with BC's past comments that maybe the instrumentation outshines the songwriting on Gish. It's probably the most virtuosic SP album as far as lead guitar and drumming goes. The outro to Bury Me is astounding. Lyrically he hadn't really developed his style yet. It's kind of psychedelic psychobabble as BC put it in one interview, but it works.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:38 AM   #155
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MTAE is a solid 2 but I agree with list otherwise. I’d make MCIS a 10 and MSOTS high than TFE due to the title song being the best thing I think he’s written post SP1

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:41 AM   #156
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Gish is a 9 too. Every riff on that one is a riff I wish I wrote.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:44 AM   #157
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downward spiral
I don't listen to it like I used to but I will always love that album.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:46 AM   #158
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I would also make MISC a 10.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:48 AM   #159
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I always incl. Pisces and to me it's a solid 9. TAFH gets a 9 too.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:55 AM   #160
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I always incl. Pisces and to me it's a solid 9. TAFH gets a 9 too.
Agreed glassy. Pisces might be more an 8.5 for me though. Splitting hairs.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:03 AM   #161
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someone hook me up kthnx

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:06 AM   #162
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Lights in the Sky was ten times the tour Shiny was
Also Trent would never do a tour as dumb as Shiny

Get fucked Kahlo

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:09 AM   #163
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gish - 8
siamese - 9.5
mcis - 10
adore - 8
machina (altogether) - 8.5
zwan - 6
tfe - 6.5
zeitgeist - 6
teargarden - 4.5 (stuff like tom tom & freak bring it way up than where it would be otherwise)
oceania - 3
mtae - 5
shiny - i'll wait 'til it's "officially" come out & i've listened through the whole thing more than once

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:10 AM   #164
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I've seen NIN live and sorry but the Shiny tour was far better. Less bro protein shakes and growth hormones going on.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:13 AM   #165
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Zeitgeist and Oceania I can listen through and enjoy many of the tracks. Monuments is cohesive enough and I can listen through. I cannot get through this one. Except for Silvery Sometimes, the other stuff is so kitschy.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:43 AM   #166
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only halfway through it but it seems they're *trying* to emulate the Machina vibe more than anything else. i'll see how i feel after i'm done though. i do like Travels >.<

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 01:49 AM   #167
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Zeitgeist and Oceania I can listen through and enjoy many of the tracks. Monuments is cohesive enough and I can listen through. I cannot get through this one. Except for Silvery Sometimes, the other stuff is so kitschy.
Yeah bro... I think maybe I've just outgrown what the band is about now.

I liked Zeitgeist and half of American gothic, didn't like Teargarden or Oceania, liked Monuments and now didn't like Ogilala or Shiny.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 02:15 AM   #168
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this is the best of anything post 2000. hands down. half the tracks are grating, but the other half of it is actually enjoyable. it doesn't capture the magic of the golden era, but the mellower music in general is good, and definitely not physically painful like Oceania and MTAE, which had 1-2 good songs apiece. I'm actually pleasantly surprised. Now if I could just get the evil words Billy has said in the past few years out of my head, I might actually truly like half of it.

Good tracks: Silvery Sometimes, Travels, Alienation, With Sympathy

He just can't be a rocker without being cringey anymore, but I'm good with spacey mellow stuff. The vocals have seriously improved, too. I'm politely ignoring the lyrics.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 02:41 AM   #169
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this is the best of anything post 2000. hands down. half the tracks are grating, but the other half of it is actually enjoyable. it doesn't capture the magic of the golden era, but the mellower music in general is good, and definitely not physically painful like Oceania and MTAE, which had 1-2 good songs apiece. I'm actually pleasantly surprised. Now if I could just get the evil words Billy has said in the past few years out of my head, I might actually truly like half of it.

Good tracks: Silvery Sometimes, Travels, Alienation, With Sympathy

He just can't be a rocker without being cringey anymore, but I'm good with spacey mellow stuff. The vocals have seriously improved, too. I'm politely ignoring the lyrics.
After listening for the past 2 days.. this is basically where I'm at too.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 04:56 AM   #170
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Lights in the Sky was ten times the tour Shiny was
Also Trent would never do a tour as dumb as Shiny

Get fucked Kahlo
jesus christ I agree with your points but try and stop being a huge crybaby ok

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:00 AM   #171
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GISH – 8
SD – 10
MCIS – 8
Adore – 8
MI – 4
MII – 5
MSOTS – 6
TFE –can't remember
Z – real bad
TGBK early years – a
Oceania – n
MTAE – u
Ogilala – s
Shiny – 3

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:00 AM   #172
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I have to admit, Shiny is their best album in ages.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 05:10 AM   #173
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"Speculation
Come on, get yourself together
Speculation
Become the owl at midnight"

lololo wtf?
fucking hell this is a hard listen

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:55 AM   #174
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As someone who saw both latest tours, this is also wrong.

I mean set list variety ain’t everything but it’s something.
I thought NINSP was dumb enough to fall for this level of base trolling (he was - again!), but I kind of expected better from you tbh. I'm sure your response will be along the lines of having low expectations from me in general.

The clue was in:

"Fan engagement, musical genius, music videos, innovative live shows"

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 06:56 AM   #175
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Become the owl at midnight
I can't listen to Solara for this fucking awful lyric. There are a few clangers on this album for sure.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:13 AM   #176
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SEPCULTATION!

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:16 AM   #177
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also: Penetration! in Alienation

I mean, wtf

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:50 AM   #178
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teargarden - 4.5 (stuff like tom tom & freak bring it way up than where it would be otherwise)
oceania - 3
This is nothing short of lunacy. Oceania is no great shakes but TbK is clearly bottom of the barrel. Tom Tom is a good song though, I'll give you that. Owata would've been the real highlight but he mangled it.

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Yeah bro... I think maybe I've just outgrown what the band is about now.
lol, i doubt that.

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:52 AM   #179
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lol

 
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:07 AM   #180
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"PURE PENETRATION"

P U R E P E N E T R A T I O N
with billy corgan lol

 
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