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Old 12-14-2012, 12:35 AM   #181
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i hooked up with a girl at my friends church band thing

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:13 AM   #182
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vixnix is a christian who rejects the vast majority of the basic tenets of christianity
Can you please not talk about it, it really upsets me

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:19 AM   #183
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is it because you're living a lie and you're a godless atheist like the rest of us

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:57 AM   #184
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She can't be serious. What would be upsetting about a simple mentioning of her religion?

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:59 AM   #185
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Sometimes. Sometimes it's because I'm unable to communicate everything I think and feel about all of it. It's a very unfamiliar and unpleasant feeling.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:01 AM   #186
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It's not mentioning Christianity that upsets me. It's talking about what is required or what it means to be a Christian.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:09 AM   #187
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Why should you care? It's your private, personal faith, whatever anyone thinks is "required" - it's yours.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:21 AM   #188
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I guess it reminds of how nobody ever listens to what I say about religion or Christianity and how a lot of people think they understand it but i feel like they don't and I really wish they did because it's an aspect of life I would really love to share with more people (share as in, be a part of with, not as in, revealing the truth to people) and how there's no way to tell them that, that i know of. I don't know. It reminds me if how lonely I am in my faith, I guess.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:23 AM   #189
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I can't bring myself to draw another bath in this dry country so now I'm drinking large cups of tea instead.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:05 AM   #190
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Sometimes. Sometimes it's because I'm unable to communicate everything I think and feel about all of it. It's a very unfamiliar and unpleasant feeling.
it's because the rational part of your mind knows it's all mularkey

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:07 AM   #191
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DO YOU WANT ME TO BE FAT FOREVER TROTSKY

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:07 AM   #192
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Stop giving me feelings to eat

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:17 AM   #193
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Why would anyone want to be a Christian?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:18 AM   #194
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vixnix are you a jehovah's witness

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:26 AM   #195
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No, I'm in the Uniting Church of Australia. It's the product of the merging of the Methodists and Presbyterians in Australia. My family is Presby on one side and London Missionary Society on the other. I was actually baptized into the Anglican church in New Zealand but the Sydney diocese is too fundamentalist for me so we joined the Uniting church here instead.

Christmas is a great reason to be a church goer. This year I'm playing organ at the midnight service at our new church and then playing piano at our old church on Christmas morning, it's going to be a real experience. Easter is amazing too.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:29 AM   #196
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the invisible sky man him tell us what do

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:30 AM   #197
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i'll be playing with my organ this christmas as well

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:31 AM   #198
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what the hell can those denominational divisions really mean if they can split and reunite and rename and do whatever they like and you and your family just pick what's most convenient or something. protestantism

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:32 AM   #199
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You know what I'm making now? Self saucing chocolate pudding. Maybe I can mix in a few tears for good measure.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:38 AM   #200
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Everybody's different, it's good to be able to choose a church where you feel like you're coming close to God and where you and you get along with the other church goers.

But ultimately what all the splitting and renaming and reuniting has meant is that people think we're a bunch of clueless idiots. Which is true, and mostly we are aware of that. But we were kinda hoping people might stick around anyway just for interest's sake but it turns out nobody us interested in thinking about values or God on a Sunday morning and thinking about stuff and singing and having a cup of tea afterwards. So in a couple of generations we just won't exist anymore.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:08 AM   #201
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shouldn't you choose a church based on what is true / what you believe in? otherwise naturally it's just another hobby.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:37 AM   #202
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I did. Truth and belief are complicated things to me so I chose a church that encourages questioning and accepts doubt.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:27 AM   #203
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that's not what those divisions are based on though. anglicans, presbyterians and methodists are different in ways that most people don't know or even care about today. which seems weird to me, if you really take your religion seriously.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:34 AM   #204
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i'm christian but whatever, hindus probably have a better grip on metaphysics than christians and for all i know there are a bunch of gods.

but you know, pretty sure none of them would be okay with annexing people's land and killing innocent civilians which is what this thread is supposed to be about, right guys?

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:35 AM   #205
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that's not what those divisions are based on though. anglicans, presbyterians and methodists are different in ways that most people don't know or even care about today. which seems weird to me, if you really take your religion seriously.
depends if you're IRA

 
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but you know, pretty sure none of them would be okay with annexing people's land and killing innocent civilians which is what this thread is supposed to be about, right guys?
i'm getting really into th iliad these days and... naaah

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:39 AM   #207
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the iliad is awesome. i love it. read zachary mason's 'the lost books of the odyssey' by the way, if you like this stuff. it's really good.

anyway, i'm not going to extend my belief to a totally amoral pantheon of gods, but maybe something close.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:41 AM   #208
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i'm christian but whatever, hindus probably have a better grip on metaphysics than christians and for all i know there are a bunch of gods.
lol what u r blasphemer

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:00 AM   #209
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you would be surprised with what you can get away with. anyway, there aren't really any hard and fast rules for being a christian in general beyond accepting the beautitudes, that some sort of god does exist and that christ was all about that shit and that he did die for us.

honestly couldn't care less if a christian wants to throw like another 70 gods and reincarnation in there.

 
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:40 AM   #210
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Christ died for our sins.


 
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