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Old 04-17-2020, 01:42 PM   #421
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he's trying to rile them up and position himself as having his fans' best interests at heart

 
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Old 04-17-2020, 04:19 PM   #422
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Found more info on the trump/pence swastika banner photo I posted. It's real but it wasn't Operation Gridlock in Lansing, MI on April 15th.

"This photograph was taken a month earlier at a protest in Boise, Idaho. Twitter user @notaxiwarrior first shared this image on March 2, 2020, along with the following caption:

Today I witnessed a bunch of trump supporters crashing a peaceful rally I was attending with my family. They were profane, disrespectful & crowded behind a nazi flag. Not one trumpster confronted him on his racism. They all stood behind him of course, showing their true selves"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sw...ence-michigan/

 
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Old 04-22-2020, 10:20 AM   #423
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I'll keep this out of reprise's thread. Trying to think of what I hate more than white supremacists and neo-nazis.

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In recent weeks, far-right extremists have become particularly enamoured with sowing disinformation about the COVID-19 pandemic, stoking protests and anti government sentiment in hopes of creating social chaos. Many experts have openly warned that “accelerationists”—followers of violent political doctrine calling for terrorist actions to hasten the collapse of society—have seen an opportunity in the current pandemic to test already weakened governments that are struggling to contain the virus.
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“Far-right extremists’ distribution of allegedly hacked data by organizations like WHO and the Gates Foundation is fitting to how they’ve targeted medical organizations and personnel amid the pandemic,” said executive director Rita Katz. “Whether out of accelerationist or conspiratorial-minded motivations, white supremacists and Neo-Nazis have called to vandalize hospitals, intentionally infect medical workers, and beyond.”

Katz explained that the hacked data could lead to continued conspiracy theories proliferating about the pandemic, and the potential for violent actors to act on those fictitious and dangerous theories.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a...-who-employees

 
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:51 AM   #424
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Team Missouri sues the Chinese government over virus handling

 
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:00 PM   #425
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Can a day go by without a "is this real life?" piece of news

 
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:01 PM   #426
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It's been almost as consistent as FoolofaTook ruining threads.

 
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:17 PM   #427
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:25 PM   #428
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oh great, the "shoryuken" of thread-ruining!

 
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:32 PM   #429
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you just have to get really good at power scrolling past images and the threads aren't ruined anymore. it's second nature to me at this point

 
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Old 04-22-2020, 12:32 PM   #430
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i can power scroll almost as well as I can rap

 
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Old 04-22-2020, 09:22 PM   #431
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Cool overdrive and all, but...


 
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Old 04-23-2020, 01:50 AM   #432
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:18 AM   #433
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Guys please. If you're trying to impress me, I want you to know I've already made my choice.

I pick Whatcolor!

 
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Old 04-23-2020, 07:18 AM   #434
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(sry buzzard)

 
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Old 04-23-2020, 09:16 AM   #435
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Honestly, I've always viewed myself as inferior to wHATcOLOR.

I don't think it's the reminders that he messages through or texts me when I've turned my inbox off, either. Even before joining this board, I wasn't exactly sailing smoothly through a sea of confidence and I suppose I can at least thank him for providing that firm ground to a lot of the feelings I had about myself and what I only suspected at the time were personal limitations.

 
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Old 04-23-2020, 10:40 AM   #436
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Just. Wow.

The 20 most bizarre lines from Anderson Cooper's absolutely wild interview with the mayor of Las Vegas

(CNN)On Wednesday afternoon, CNN's Anderson Cooper interviewed independent Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman. Seems innocent enough, right? Mayor of a major American city appears on cable TV to talk about the challenges of coronavirus and how local, state and federal government can work together to ensure re-opening the economy is safe for citizens. Normal stuff!

Except well, not. In fact, the exact opposite of normal -- as Goodman just, well, said stuff. Much of which as either a) untrue or b) deeply irresponsible. I went through the transcript and pulled out the lines you need to see.

1. "Well, no, they'll come because they love, we've got major league sports here."
The question Anderson asked was whether people would come back to Vegas if the casinos stayed closed. "Love" is apparently a stronger draw than casinos, according to Goodman. And away we go!

2. "I'd love everything open because I think we've had viruses for years that have been here."

Say it with me: The coronavirus isn't like other viruses. It's totally new to humans, meaning we have a) no herd immunity b) no effective treatment (yet) and c) no vaccine.

3. "We've never closed down the United States. We've never closed down Nevada. We've never closed down Las Vegas because that's our job."

[clears throat] We've never had a virus like this one. Or at least: We haven't had a virus like this one for more than 100 years.

4. "Entertainment capital of the world where everything is clean."
Wait. Are we talking about Las Vegas still?

5. "I've lived a long life. I grew up in the heart of Manhattan. I knew what it's like to be with subways and crammed into elevators."

This argument, which Goodman isn't alone in making, literally makes no sense. The notion that because we all have lived in crowded areas and therefore don't need to worry about coronavirus, misses, um, a few key points. And yes, I am going to say them again. We have no herd immunity to Covid-19. We have no effective treatment. We have no vaccine. And let me add to that: Coronavirus has already killed more than 46,000 Americans. In short: Circumstances have changed, Mayor, since you were crammed into an elevator at some point in your life.

6. "That's up to them to figure out. I don't run a casino."

Asked how she would maintain social distancing if casinos were open, this was Goodman's response. Sort of a hands-off approach!

7. "I'm not a private owner of a hotel. I wish I were. And I would have the cleanest hotel with six feet figured out for every human being that comes in there."

Honestly, same.

8. "You're very good, Anderson. I've watched you for years."

He is! Great interviewer! And making guys with glasses cool again!

9. "We don't do bad things to people at all ever."

I feel like this is a sentiment we all can get behind.

10. "Maybe it's breathing. I'm sorry. Being silly here."

Goodman thought Anderson was interrupting her. (He wasn't.) It was the old "breathing" thing. Gets you every time on TV. That's why I hold my breath when I am on.

11. "Well, first of all, as someone who's pretty sure she possibly had in January, I have already been into the hospitals to say they take my plasma."

BREAKING NEWS: The mayor of Las Vegas was the first person in America to have coronavirus! A month before the previously first-known case! Wait, what's that I'm being told in my ear ... she's just saying this with no proof ... oh, OK guys, take down the breaking news banner. Sorry.

12. "I don't have that. I don't have that. Well, no, that's for our scientists. And the whole thing is fact."

The mayor of Las Vegas on contact tracing: "The whole thing is fact."

13. "We're not getting the truth. I know over the years, going back to the 1950s, with the atomic bomb, don't worry about more testing in Nevada. You'll all be fine. Take a shower."

Just to be clear here: Goodman is comparing the advice from medical professionals on coronavirus to false medical claims that nuclear testing was not harmful to those within range of it. What's amazing is that this isn't the wildest thing she said in the interview!

14. "No, this isn't China. This is Las Vegas, Nevada."

The idea that the coronavirus spreads differently in China versus Las Vegas is, uh, both deeply misguided and a very dangerous thing for a public official to say.

15. "We've had Ebola. We've had the West Nile. We've had polio."

There was Ebola in Las Vegas? Man, I am *not* paying close enough attention to the news!

16. "And anybody who was in or comes into the office that needs an appointment or has an issue, they all are with their masks on or we always enforce social distancing and the office is absolutely pristine with germs."

I know what she means. But "pristine with germs" is not the preferred way to say "clean."

17. "You're talking disease. I'm talking life. I'm talking life and living."

[checks notes] Coronavirus has killed more than 46,000 Americans -- including 187 in Nevada.

18. "It is not about anything other than putting those who have lost their jobs in a city that wasn't broken, and didn't have disease, back to work."

So, Goodman is claiming that no one in Las Vegas had coronavirus when the governor made the decision to issue a stay-at-home order? What proof does she have of that? Oh, none.

19. "We offered to be a controlled group."

It appears as though Goodman is offering up Las Vegas as a petri dish to see what happens when you open a major American city back up amid a pandemic. I'm not sure she has cleared this with the actual people who live in the city, but ...

20. "First of all, I don't gamble. I used to gamble. ... I don't have the time."

Yeah, this feels like a good place to end.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/polit...gas/index.html

Nevada governor responds to Las Vegas mayor's remarks:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...60-bts-vpx.cnn

At least they have a level headed liberal governor who cares about Nevada.

 
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Old 04-23-2020, 10:54 AM   #437
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Honestly, I've always viewed myself as inferior to wHATcOLOR.

I don't think it's the reminders that he messages through or texts me when I've turned my inbox off, either. Even before joining this board, I wasn't exactly sailing smoothly through a sea of confidence and I suppose I can at least thank him for providing that firm ground to a lot of the feelings I had about myself and what I only suspected at the time were personal limitations.
I had to read this four times to understand what you're trying to say but after that I was all

 
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Old 04-23-2020, 12:12 PM   #438
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(CNN)On Wednesday afternoon, CNN's Anderson Cooper interviewed independent Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman. Seems innocent enough, right? Mayor of a major American city appears on cable TV to talk about the challenges of coronavirus and how local, state and federal government can work together to ensure re-opening the economy is safe for citizens. Normal stuff!
Knew this was Chris Cillizza straight away. He and CNN's apparent house-style shift to a sort of Buzzfeed-ish, hey-kids angle on the news is a big reason I stopped going to their site. You watch this interview and Cooper is making all these big fake shocked faces and just playing to his audience and it's like…I don't need my news delivered with this much sass.

This is of course not a knock on you, Mpls, or to diminish the importance of the interview, which is just astonishingly outrageous. I just, god, I hate Cillizza so much.

 
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Old 04-23-2020, 12:21 PM   #439
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I know nothing about Las Vegas municipal politics, but are you sure that Trump doesn't have a side gig as their mayor?

 
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Old 04-23-2020, 12:24 PM   #440
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You mean in addition to his side gig as Florida's governor?

 
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Old 04-23-2020, 12:29 PM   #441
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Also, yeah, I find this current style of journalistic writing style, with the valley-girl vernacular and imitations of natural disfluencies in colloquial speech, kind of grating. Seems popular on all sides, from Ben Shapiro to BuzzFeed.

""Top official yesterday claimed X, which is, well, actually kinda yikes. Let's unpack it."

 
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Old 04-23-2020, 12:56 PM   #442
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I don't read or watch CNN on a regular basis. I suppose when I visit my Dad once a year he has it on in the background. On occasion I get tipped off to something like this interview and get curious but not curious enough to go out and buy a TV. I have family in Las Vegas and elsewhere in Nevada. Most of them voted for don in 2016 but I still care about them. A friend told me about this interview goin' down last night so I googled up "las vegas mayor carolyn goodman" to see what all the fuss was about. You're right though, shame on me for falling for the buzzfeed list "journalism" style cnn is apparently going for these days. Not being a fan I have no idea when they rolled this out, 'twas just looking for a snapshot of what was said.

Chris Cillizza who? BBC News is my daily read but sometimes I stumble over a CNN hole. I think we can all agree CNN is lazy especially when it comes to online content.

 
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Not shame on you! The interview occurred on CNN, that can't be helped.

Cillizza is paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to provide "analysis" for CNN, which is what you see in that article — pulling out soundbites, adding stupid comments, and reaching often deeply dumb conclusions about things. I've avoided him long enough that I can't think of a real example, but his thoughts are usually on the level of "If Team A wants to win, they're going to have to regroup and score more points than Team B."

 
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You're right though, shame on me for falling for the buzzfeed list "journalism" style cnn is apparently going for these days. Not being a fan I have no idea when they rolled this out, 'twas just looking for a snapshot of what was said.
Oh, I wasn't criticizing you for posting it. The style of the article has nothing to do with the content. And it's important to know how public officials are responding or (failing to) to this all, so the article is still valuable. I was just pointing out the style thing as an aside.

Hopefully you don't think I was trying to shit on you for posting something relevant to the conversation just because I disliked how it was presented.

 
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Hopefully you don't think I was trying to shit on you for posting something relevant to the conversation just because I disliked how it was presented.
Nope, not at all. Just finishing up the work day with a bit of sass.

 
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Old 04-24-2020, 12:51 PM   #446
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it's good to have a routine in this unprecedented time

 
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Old 04-24-2020, 02:17 PM   #447
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"On behalf of my constituents in the Bronx and Queens, New York’s 14th Congressional District, the most impacted district in America, calling people, losing their families every day, it is a joke when Republicans say that they have urgency around this bill. The only folks that they have urgency around are folks like Ruth’s Chris Steak House and Shake Shack. Those are the people getting assistance in this bill. You are not trying to fix this bill for mom-and-pops. And we have to fight to fund hospitals, fighting to fund testing. That is what we’re fighting for in this bill. It is unconscionable. If you had urgency, you would legislate like rent was due on May 1st and make sure that we ******* rent and mortgage relief for our constituents. Thank you very much"

 
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As predicted, the Republican strategy for dealing with the local problem of their reduced chances in a looming federal election is to stoke tensions with a superpower on the rise. A superpower that doesn't have to worry so much about internal voter confidence and is already doing a significantly better job of courting the international community, no less.


https://static.politico.com/80/54/2f...ok-4.17.20.pdf

It's lovely how people think this whole thing is going unite us in addressing global concerns and root out far-right governments along the way, but the sad reality is that it's just as likely to take us in the opposite direction. I do wonder if this is what it looks like to see an empire crash and burn.

 
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Old 05-04-2020, 10:40 AM   #449
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Pence: 'I Should Have Worn A Mask' When Visiting The Mayo Clinic

Oh really?

 
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Somebody in the Trump administration actually apologized for something?

Trump is not going to like that at all. Their strategy is to never admit fault, regardless of overwhelming evidence or moral egregiousness.

 
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