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Old 04-19-2007, 10:07 PM   #1
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Default Gerard Way (MCR) and Billy Corgan - The Black Parade

Call me crazy, but not only does Gerard look like Billy
he also admits that they map thier career around the pumpkins, here is an exact quote by Gerard of "My Chemical Romance"

The interviewer asked about a comparison between MCR and SP and his response was...

"Gerard: The funny thing is about The Pumpkins is, it’s one of me and Mickey’s favorite bands of all time!" - then the interviewer asked if he was on the mark about them being similar and Gerard said...

"Gerard: You are on the mark. And it actually goes even further than that. There’s nothing contrived about this band but at the same time, a lot of things are planned in advance. We think about the future a great deal. In fact, when we made out first record, I had patterned our career off The Pumpkins because they were able to do such free and artistic music."

So i was listening to "The Black Parade" Lyrics and it's weird, almost every line you could reference to the pumpkins and billy corgan, the whole thing that got me started on this was the fact that The Black Parade Video and Bullet with Butterfly Wings video was VERY similar in my eyes, i then find out the same guy produced both videos.

When i was young i used to write poems and i'd steal parts of songs and try and make the poem my own (kinda funny now...but i did) so when i read these lyrics to this song...it reminds me of when i used to do that....check it out


When I was,
A young boy, - Disarm "i used ot be a little boy"
My father, took me into the city
To see a marching band
He said, "Son when you grow up, will you be the saviour of the broken, the beaten and the damned?"
He said, "Will you defeat them, your demons, and all the non-believers, the plans that they have made? Because one day, I'll leave you, a phantom, to lead you in the summer, to join the black parade." - Billy Corgan ALWAYS refered to the fact that the pumpkins were trying to change music and make people belieev in music that mattered..he wanted to save/savior music (that's just my personal thought on that line)


When I was,
A young boy
My father, took me into the city
To see a marching band
He said, "Son when you grow up, will you be the saviour of the broken, the beaten and the damned?"

Sometimes I get the feeling, she's watching over me
And other times I feel like I should go
And through it all, the rise and fall
The bodies in the street
And when you're gone we want you all to know

We'll carry on, We'll carry on
And though you're dead and gone believe me
Your memory will carry on
We'll carry on - Spaceboy "before i'm dead and gone..........we won't belong"
Until my heart I can't contain it
The anthem won't explain it

A world that sends you reeling from decimated dreams
You're misery and hate will kill us all
So paint it black and take it back
Lets shout it loud and clear
Defiant to the end we hear the call
To carry on

We'll carry on,
And though your dead and gone believe me
Your memory will carry on
We'll carry on
And though your broken and defeated
Your weary widow marches on
And on we carry through the fears
Oh oh oh

The disappointed faces of your peers
Oh oh oh
Take a look at me 'cause I could not care at all
Do or die
You’ll never make me
Because the world will never take my (heart) - not exact, but a VERY billy-esque thing to say
Go and try; you’ll never break me
We want it all, we want to play this (part)
I won’t explain, or say I’m sorry
I’m unashamed, I’m gonna show my (scar)
Give a cheer, for all the broken
Listen here, because it’s who we are
I'm just a man; I'm not a hero - such a billy thing to say
Just a boy, whose meant to sing this (song) - i've got to move it on i've got to sing my song
I'm just a man; I'm not a hero
I
Don't
Care

We'll carry on
We'll carry on
And though you're dead and gone believe me
Your memory will carry on
We'll carry on
And though your broken and defeated
Your weary widow marches on
Do or die
You’ll never make me
Because the world will never take my (heart)
Go and try; you’ll never break me
We want it all, we want to play this (part) - as i play the part of a saint on my knees
I won’t explain, or say I’m sorry
I’m unashamed, I’m gonna show my (scar) - billy has a scar on his hand
Give a cheer, for all the broken
Listen here, because it’s who we are
I'm just a man; I'm not a hero
Just a boy, who had to sing this (song)
I'm just a man; I'm not a hero)
We'll carry on
We'll carry on
We'll carry on
We'll carry on
We'll carry on - end of space boy is...We won't belong

We won't belong
We won't belong
We won't belong
We won't belong


in spaceboy - dead and gone and we won't belong are the 2 most sung lines
in the black parade - dead and gone and we'll carry on are the 2 most sung lines
as well, they both end with 5 straight "we'll carry on/we won't belong"


I know some of you will say i am generalizing too much, and the fact billy has a scar and he says scar in the song...is lame
and i would agree...but since there are SOOOOOO many pumpkin/corgan type references in ONE song, INCLUDING the video any small thing such as that...should be used as well

There are lyrics in there that aren't taken right out of pumpkins songs, but if you've been a pumpkins fan for 10-15 years...you KNOW what billy is like, you've heard the songs and you can take a line that is completely unique from any pumpkins song and be like....that's such a pumpkins/corgan thing...you can TELL
this song has pumpkins ALL OVER IT

with that said, i love My Chemical Romance and i think this song is amazing
and The Black Parade is a wicked wicked album, and on 1 final note....check this out.

http://www.buzznet.com/tags/mychemic.../video/196970/

 
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:14 PM   #2
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ok... but im uninspired by their music and they have a long way to grow

 
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:19 PM   #3
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okay, no they suck.

mcr= commercialized corporate mongers.

 
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:19 PM   #4
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uh..

 
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:33 PM   #5
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i sold 25 dollars of MCR stuff on ebay for 300 dollars. . . .

haha

 
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:31 PM   #6
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okay, no they suck.

mcr= commercialized corporate mongers.
Uh, i dont think you have any clue what a corporate monger is...i mean....every big band in the world gets paid by some corporate record label...so that line makes you look dumb. Just because a band says they are independent and anti-corporate whatever, most of them are actually being funded by a corporate entity.

MCR is very much like the Pumpkins and even though i hear Welcome to the Black Parade 4-6 times a day at work, I never have gotten tired of it. It's cool because Gerard Way is basically the Billy Corgan of the 00's.

If MCR had come out with this latest album back in 1995, and if SP never existed, all the SP fans here would have been diehard MCR fans, and they would have loved Gerard Way and would be talking about The Black Parade like they talk about MCIS. The music is just about the same.

 
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:33 PM   #7
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Wow, I've been thinking for a long time that MCR is trying to be like the pumpkins...and you've rejuvenated my interest.

Thread still sucks though. And you're very wrong in specifics.

 
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:39 PM   #8
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Shawn Osmond; stop posting

 
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:43 PM   #9
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Uh, i dont think you have any clue what a corporate monger is...i mean....every big band in the world gets paid by some corporate record label...so that line makes you look dumb. Just because a band says they are independent and anti-corporate whatever, most of them are actually being funded by a corporate entity.

MCR is very much like the Pumpkins and even though i hear Welcome to the Black Parade 4-6 times a day at work, I never have gotten tired of it. It's cool because Gerard Way is basically the Billy Corgan of the 00's.

If MCR had come out with this latest album back in 1995, and if SP never existed, all the SP fans here would have been diehard MCR fans, and they would have loved Gerard Way and would be talking about The Black Parade like they talk about MCIS. The music is just about the same.
Honey, MCR is just an overly-consumed commercial product, and that's all they are. They have absolutely no substance whatsoever. Do not try to defend this pathetic group which you call a band.

 
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:43 PM   #10
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I like MCR, but they are far from being Pumpkins caliber material.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:01 AM   #11
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Well i'm glad all the replies are topic related lol

most of you are probably 19 years old and weere just born when Siamese Dream came out

i want a reply from someone that in 1993 or earlier, SP was thier favorite band...to comment. somoene that knows what im talkin about.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:10 AM   #12
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im 19, and i dont know about other 19 year olds on this forum, but i was born before the pumpkins played their first show.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:13 AM   #13
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I just checked out that clip on youtube and I can definately something there. I kind of got a kick out of it because you can see the Pumpkins influence. The sudden and spontanious changes in the music and the lead singer kind of reminded me of Billy in some ways. I didn't really like the song (too punk for me) but I liked the clip. Very Pumpkins-esc.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:21 AM   #14
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You should have keep this to yourself.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 01:00 AM   #15
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kept*

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 01:28 AM   #16
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i'm 25 (um i guess i started liking SP in '95-ish).

anyhow yes I can see that MCR is influenced by SP, but MCR still sucks. I only like the songs Helena and I'm Not Okay.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 01:50 AM   #17
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ella is one of the worst posters we've had in a good while

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 02:39 AM   #18
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Those line connections are really weak.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 02:43 AM   #19
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1st poster was reeeaaally stretching, lol. ...at least by using those lyrics as an example.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:03 AM   #20
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4-6 times a day? are you fucking serious?
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MCR is very much like the Pumpkins and even though i hear Welcome to the Black Parade 4-6 times a day at work, I never have gotten tired of it. It's cool because Gerard Way is basically the Billy Corgan of the 00's.
What are you on?

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:16 AM   #21
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this thread is a damn abortion.

only three worthwhile posters up in this bitch.

well, make it for once i press 'submit', nukka.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 05:48 AM   #22
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I think its quite tenuous working the lyrics to the MCR to match up with the anything the pumpkins did, sure MCR seem to pretend to be the pumpkins but going so far as to try and pick out lines from their song is stretching it

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 05:59 AM   #23
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this is crap. in SP you can hear the sabbath and the ledzep. MCR is just power chord punk.
even oasis songs have more interesting guitar work.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:32 AM   #24
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even oasis songs have more interesting guitar work.
lol

the fact that someone took the time to match up MCR lyrics against any and all possible pumpkins connections is a bit disturbing to me, not to mention completely absurd. you could probably take pearl jam lyrics/references and do the exact same thing. get a life, man...

that gerald bastard is in no way the *billy corgan* of this decade. clearly he would like to be. i've read interviews out of curiosity, and to me this band is just a pop-rock cliche. and the fact that people feed into it is sort of pathetic. personally, i think the bigger issue here is that since the 90's there has been no major breakthrough in a new *sound* for music. bands like my chemical romance, fallout boy, and whoever else are riding a tidal wave of commercial success by filling a void with gimmicks and shirtlessness.

to that sir, i say "boooo."

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:03 AM   #25
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...the fact that someone took the time to match up MCR lyrics against any and all possible pumpkins connections is a bit disturbing to me, not to mention completely absurd. you could probably take pearl jam lyrics/references and do the exact same thing. get a life, man...

...to that sir, i say "boooo."
and I say boo-urns.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:06 AM   #26
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that episode was awesome.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:10 AM   #27
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You can't beat em. They're a Coca-Cola Classic.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:31 AM   #28
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i want a reply from someone that in 1993 or earlier, SP was thier favorite band...to comment. somoene that knows what im talkin about.
i fit this description. MCR sucks and this thread rots.

END.

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:45 AM   #29
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MCR=Pigeonshit

 
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:33 PM   #30
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Gerard Way has commented in an interview (I'm too lazy to find it for you guys) he has listened to Siamese Dream more than any other album. He has also said that the person he was most nervous to meet was Billy Corgan because Billy was his idol growing up. Its no secret MCR are fans of SP and vice versa. (emphasis on vice versa)

 
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